So, lets talk about champions outside of their...

[quote=Zeprido]I'll start, [[swain]] as an AD Carry. Try and follow this kind of a format if you would like to contribute. Why does this work? He works for an extremely aggressive lane. 1. The main ability that enables this to work is his [[Torment]] which grants himself damage amplification. 2. He has built in mana gain in his passive [[carrion renewal]], this allows him to last hit and then keep the aggressive play going. 3. He has good CC in his [[decrepify]] and [[nevermore]] which enables you to keep hitting while your [[torment]] is still up. 4. His ultimate adds addition life gain back on top of any lifesteal items you may get, so [[spirit visage]] still applies. Potential weaknesses: 1. Short range 2. reliant on CC to be able to keep his attacks going 3. very centered on single target damage, so susceptible to enemy CC reducing possible damage[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Trust me, ^ That doesn't work xD Try AD Lux instead, she actually wins lane phase at least and has range. 8D Max her shield first, it's dumb for trading in lane.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Support Leblanc. I'm just going to leave that out there... and let you guys craft on it.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=DuffTime] Trust me, ^ That doesn't work xD Try AD Lux instead, she actually wins lane phase at least and has range. 8D Max her shield first, it's dumb for trading in lane. [/quote] Have you tried it? =)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yeah my team mate went 8-1 with AD swain in lane and was 100% useless the rest of the game. And I use AD Lux in smurf games often. [quote=Lugignaf] Support Leblanc. I'm just going to leave that out there... and let you guys craft on it. [/quote] Yeah this is no joke. Zekent does it as well from time to time. I've been saying LB is a beast support in the right lanes for ages.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=DuffTime] Yeah my team mate went 8-1 with AD swain in lane and was 100% useless the rest of the game. [/quote] I've had the opposite effect, probably because I tried it on a smurf though. He's team reliant with CC.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]his auto attack if atrocious. the range is bad, the base is bad, speed is bad, badbadbadbad xD[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=DuffTime] his auto attack if atrocious. the range is bad, the base is bad, speed is bad, badbadbadbad xD [/quote] I run flat ad and AS runes.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Suddenly his base scaling for AS and attack rang and animation don't suck? >:P (His AA is awful.) Lux's is bad, but not nearly as bad as his. Another fun one is AD Brand. He also crushes lane phase.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido][quote=DuffTime] Suddenly his base scaling for AS and attack rang and animation don't suck? >:P (His AA is awful.) Lux's is bad, but not nearly as bad as his. Another fun one is AD Brand. He also crushes lane phase. [/quote] Was trying to say that his damage amplification kind of makes up for it, as does the fact that he brings CC to the table (both soft and hard).[/quote]