Talon Theorycrafting

[quote=Nighthawk]I didn't know it was a 10% increase to damage when cc'd too, but still, that's a pretty good amount.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Nighthawk] I didn't know it was a 10% increase to damage when cc'd too, but still, that's a pretty good amount. [/quote] Just for clarity, that's Talon's passive, and that's the main reason people want to buy the Frozen Mallet on him.[/quote]

[quote=Atheb]okay on the fm tf debate: on my opinion fm would be better on talon IF he was and ad/as carry. atm he seems more of a burst assassin to me so id say tf>fm i tried ghostblade fm on him and the fm just feld to cripple my brust by too much. maybe brut-tf-ghostblade? naturally starting with boots 3pots and 1-2 dorans still i need more practice but atm i really really like him[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Yeah, TF > FM now that I know the actual stat of the passive. :( Fatma's > TF alone though because I heard his ratios are so good. Also I faced someone with the BT stacking shit and he still didn't do as much damage as a triforce build, trolololol.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]I think triforce is better for him, since think about it this way: 1. a lot more useful stats to an assassin/carry than FM 2. you spam Q a LOT, and this will give you a lot more damage from TF procs 3. Your passive is meh...only 10% damage, and your W slows anyway, and you STILL get 35% slow chance proc from TF, so you still WILL be dealing bonus damage with passive more often than not, just not EVERY hit like you would with FM; but I think TF would result in more damage anyway, because of the procs. And as I said, you still will be dealing additional damage with the passive more often than not.[/quote]

[quote=toco123]Triforce is a waste of gold, as the AP does not benefit him.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Nighthawk] Yeah, TF > FM now that I know the actual stat of the passive. :( Fatma's > TF alone though because I heard his ratios are so good. Also I faced someone with the BT stacking shit and he still didn't do as much damage as a triforce build, trolololol. [/quote] 1. Triforce is 4k gold, BT is 3k. 2. BT build REQUIRES a last whisper or it's crap, same can be said for the TF+ghostblade build. If you're trying to say that talon does better damage with TF compared to a bloodthirster, then i'll have to say you're retarded. It's pretty plain, Q+W+R scale too well, for the gold cost, TF does less damage than a bloodthirster. 3BT, TF, LW, Boots is the optimum build for damage, but it's like 16k gold, which is a 50m~ game for most.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK][quote=toco123] Triforce is a waste of gold, as the AP does not benefit him. [/quote] LOL BEST POST EVAR[/quote]

[quote=Keels][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] [quote=toco123] Triforce is a waste of gold, as the AP does not benefit him. [/quote] LOL BEST POST EVAR [/quote] ^^This[/quote]

[quote=toco123][quote=Keels] [quote=wRAthoFVuLK] [quote=toco123] Triforce is a waste of gold, as the AP does not benefit him. [/quote] LOL BEST POST EVAR [/quote] ^^This [/quote] Perhaps I should write in detail: Theres no lying that in theory this gives a little of everything that benefits Mr. Talon. However: [list] It doesn't provide enough damage. Sheen's AP is a wasted stat. Frozen Mallet is a core item due to its permaslow and permabuff for talon. Phantom Dancer synergizes better with Infinity Edge than triforce. [/list] Rushing Triforce is too expensive to get instead of other items early that would provide more straight AD damage and burst that you would get from the Bloodthirster.[/quote]