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Vayne Theorycrafting

Creator: Keondre July 27, 2012 8:44pm
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no. It's just not a good idea.. Especially not on vayne!

You don't wanna be spamming tumble all-day erryday in lane. Because you don't wanna be harassing too much cuz you'll get outharrassed A LOT!
With armor seals the amount of harass you'll take is just gonna go up and be even more massive and you'll be forced out of lane.

TL;DR:
Mana regen on vayne is the stupidest thing ever. Might as well stack AP and go for a lichbane.
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Okies ^.^ Just asking :D
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Mana regen won't specifically make you able to 'spam' more. If you're looking to actually spam Tumble then you might want to look into CDR blues. I assume you run flat MR or MR/lvl blues already, which would be less punishing to give up than armor runes. in bot lane at least
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Keondre wrote:

Okies ^.^ Just asking :D

and i'm just answering ^^
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I understand why you would spam your Q, that ******* mobility ... but would different runes change anything ?

Flat mp5 seals give 3.7 mp5
Flat mp5 glyphs give 2.8 mp5

That does not change a lot of thing, unless you also take some points in utility and here you're squishy as **** (no defensive masteries + no defensive seals/glyphs).



And never underestimate the MR during lane phase, EZ's W, Sona's harass, Corki's Q are all magic.

If there is no magic harass, then take armor glyphs :o
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Nashor's Tooth? What to do with 65 ap? XD
or is your option to build a tanky Vayne with Manamune and Blitzcrank build?


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This is my usual runes for ADC:

Greater Mark of Attack Damage
Greater Seal of Armor
Greater Glyph of Attack Speed
Greater Quintessence of Attack Damage


I am using jj's rune build for all my ADC, I like the extra attack speed. Just curious if the mana regen would be a little helpful.
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Get the mana regen in utility (only take like 8 points) gives you all the mana you need :D (That's what doublelift ran on his famous vayne when he made the page on his stream).


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....Mana regen over armor? Why? Can't spam skills when you're dead and running 0 armor runes is risky as an AD carry.

Vayne is especially vulnerable to free harass. "Tumble" is a mediocre skill in avoiding problems, unlike Quickdraw or Arcane Shift and other similar skills.

Also factor in sustain lanes IE Soraka/Alistar/Taric/Sona supports. Generally this would mean your harass is easily shrugged off. Or aggressive supports like Alistar/Leona/Blitzcrank. If you're using Tumble to harass you leave yourself open for combos that WILL kill you.

Mana regen fazes out over the course of the game. Armor, sure 13 armor at level 18 doesn't seem like much, but it can aid in securing a safe early game.

It's really up to you, but with any lack of hard escapes (aside from flash if you take it) you leave yourself vulnerable.
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Thanks for the thorough response!
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