What if we changed TF's ult?

[quote=Rudmed]So a thought came to me, about TF's ult, and Panths for that reason. Their current range is 5500 foward, back, left, and right. The shape is circle, so I have a new idea. If we changed the shape to an oval (which is naturally wider than a circle) it would satisfy the main reason for why TF's ult was nerfed. First lets look at the changes this will bring. 1. A longer movement (For example going left and right or top and bot lane if your mid), which would make ganking easier for early game. This because TF will be able to most likely jump lane to lane (only 1 lane so this kinda puts pressure on him going mid). 2. TF's backdooring capabilities will be limited as they are with this change, and he will not have as much presence with aggressive team fighting. (I suggest keeping the foward and back at 5500 range, while increasing the left and right movement). 3. Help TF's early game by allowing him his early game postioning again. (I may add onto this list, but thats what I got right now). Discuss.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The problem with the oval is, it would be orientation based. You could just turn 90 degrees and BD like a champ. What I would do is make it go from mid inhib to mid of mid. That way he could still BD, he could still gank and, he wouldn't be able to revive/ult to win.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed][quote=Lugignaf] The problem with the oval is, it would be orientation based. You could just turn 90 degrees and BD like a champ. What I would do is make it go from mid inhib to mid of mid. That way he could still BD, he could still gank and, he wouldn't be able to revive/ult to win. [/quote] Oh well....I didn't think about that. Maybe its possible to not make it orintation based? Edit: uhh lugi that is the same range that TF has right now.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Really? I haven't played as TF since the nerf. And by "mid inhib to mid of mid" I meant, "if TF is standing in the mid inhib, he can get to mid of mid." Does that sound better?[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed][quote=Lugignaf] Really? I haven't played as TF since the nerf. And by "mid inhib to mid of mid" I meant, "if TF is standing in the mid inhib, he can get to mid of mid." Does that sound better? [/quote] Yeah, I went ahead, and made a map for it, and used my pro (yeah right) paint skills to mark the range from the middle of mid lane. So congrats, you just nailed TF's post-nerf ult range.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Wow... I was actually right in my accusation before the numbers came out... Maybe from the fountain to mid of mid?[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed][quote=Lugignaf] Wow... I was actually right in my accusation before the numbers came out... Maybe from the fountain to mid of mid? [/quote] While me, and most TF players would love that, it would probaly bring up the problem of back-dooring, aka the main reason why he was banned. Give us half the map, and we can get places. They made his ult so touchy, that it is really hard to work with.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]It at least needs to reach lanes. I do agree with that.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed][quote=Lugignaf] It at least needs to reach lanes. I do agree with that. [/quote] Yeah, my belief about it is the fact that TF can lose some valuable exp, and farm if he leaves for too long. So if he sets up a gank, and (with the current range of his ult) he leaves his lane to warp in then he will be called mia. So upon seeing that, smart foes will back off, and TF just lost farm and EXP (not much, but if you leave to long it adds up).[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I think it adds to a bit of strategy though. People will back off if you "leave" allowing your lanes to push. Will explain more later.[/quote]