Wit's End on Irelia/No Trin Force, Thoughts?

[quote=Trojan995]Hotshotgg has been playing Irelia a lot recently. And he doesn't build Trinity Force. Instead, he usually buys an early wit's end. He cites trin force as a bad item. What on your thoughts on this, and how Irelia should be built in general?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]I don't think TF is bad in any way, but I don't know if it's CORE. It could work because of her sick true damage. I'd probably still buy TF on her tho.[/quote]

[quote=astrolia]He's probably trying out Wickd's new style. Wickd has been doing FroMal, Wit's End and no Tri Force on her. Wickd also runs aspd red runes with that build, so the damage is reliant entirely on [[Hiten Style]] rather than going AD with arpen, atmogs, and utilizing [[Bladesurge]]'s attack damage. The stats on TF are nice, but the bulk of Irelia's burst damage is pretty much attack speed reliant. Wit's End is a good item in general for "tanky" characters since it's offensively defensive but it seems to be quite underrated.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]WEIRD, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THESE GUYS ARE READING MY BUILDS AND FOLLOWING THEM ITEM FOR ITEM. *Points to the updated Irelia build on his Offtanks guide which was changed almost 2 months ago* As for my thoughts, it's not that it's bad, it's just not as good as it used to be. She had more burst damage in her skills before, and TF synergized better with that. Now her W is bit by bit becoming her only reliable source of damage, so it's better to build into that and to build tankiness, both are things that can be found on on-hit items. Warmogg's + on hit items = really scary offtank. It's the new Atmogg's, people just aren't wise to it yet. Builds are really something that evolve over time with nerfs and buffs and will never stop changing. I did predict that Irelia would be nerfed and the build would need to be evaluated again later, and so I kept my word :P And thusly posted the new Irelia build you see. I really like this build for her, I feel you get stronger faster and your strength better carries into late game as a result~ ^_^[/quote]

[quote=Phoenix0000ff]I think wickd only gets trinity force if he needs the sheen for trading blows in lane. Otherwise he prefers frozen mallet. Just an observation though. As for how Irelia should be built I think she's one of those characters that can do well with a static everyday build however she is best played with an adaptive build. You can probably still 1v1 some heroes as AP irelia just because she is kinda bonkers like that. Doesn't mean you should and doesn't mean its a good build. If your team needs a bit of sustainable damage maybe wits end. If they need you to stun and soak then I guess you build for that.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Mmhmm, counter-building works great on her. I sorta feel like the only core items on her is Warmogg's and everything just changes and shifts.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]Honestly, I think after rushing triforce irelia becomes one of the strongest mid-game offtanks in the game. She literally devours squishies. I love it. Generally I go triforce, wit's end, merc's, fon, atma's, randuin/sunfire.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]TF is very good vrs da squishies, yeap ^_^[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]On Irelia specifically, since she can make max use of the sheen proc with her R (and other abilities). Plus true damage bro.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Ya. I know how good it is on her :P I still buy it sometimes, HSGG is wrong to say it's not good. I do generally prefer tanking harder and getting all my damage from on hit and true dmg though lately ^_^[/quote]