Yo, let's talk about [how to counter] Shen

[quote=Lugignaf]I really love the people who are like "just ban Shen" when sometimes, there are far more optimal bans. It's the reason I don't ban Shaco until last. Lets me ban at least 2 other people until I absolutely have to ban him. Sometimes, they ban him instead. If you can outpush Shen, you're fine. His sustain isn't a problem if you're not even trying to kill him. Ward excessively and just back off when the jungler comes. You're probably going to force Shen to get a sunfire if you push hard enough. As [b]someone[/b] said once "If they force you to buy a suboptimal item, they've already won the lane."[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]pushing doesn't always guarantee him staying in lane It's like I said, sometimes they don't give a shit and teleport anyway while I'm taking their tower. Great, I got my team a tower.. we just lost 3 people and a dragon bottom lane though.[/quote]

[quote=Kaynore]I think Mordekaiser can handle Shen with relatively well. He can trade blows better than most thanks to his passive and with the constant push of the lane, Shen has to decide whether to Q me or a minion. However Morde doesn't have CC which makes him somewhat undesirable to have at top (Jungle ganks have a lower success rate).[/quote]

[quote=Tiddlyfunk][quote=Pølsemanden] Well, i'd pick GP against him. Global ult to help when shen ports. you can screw him over pretty hard in lanephase. He taunts you, Oranges. But i just loooove gp at the moment.(although my 2 favourite items on him just got nerfed) *sadface* [[Doran's blade]] n [[Atma's Impaler]] [/quote] Love the idea of GP against him, but wouldn't Parrley be a bit gibbed if Shen threw a few points into his self shield? Can't see the poke from GP to Shen being the best unless you went Critplank or something. But I suppose the optimal thing to do would be to max raise morale, and oranges first for your team anyway, right?[/quote]

[quote=UsernameSayWha]I love it when a go top against a GP as de lee singah and throw 3 points into my w. The guy has no clue what to do.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Global teleport Shen cannot be countered. He can lose his lane as hard as he wants and still win his team the game with counter ganking and split pushing. Ban him. If your team captain doesn't ban him, the only truly viable option is to abandon ganking other lanes at all, and just camp the fuck out of Shen with a hard ganker until he's useless and can't even tank. That way at least HOPEFULLY he won't be counter ganking and raping your team.[/quote]