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League of Legends (LoL) Question: Finnlay Riot remakes Karma but...

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  • Tatticadanit0

    Finnlay Riot remakes Karma but...

    I think Karma has benn nerfed with this rework, let's take a look at the skill.
    [*] Gathering Fire Well, the old passive was way too better. This passive can be useful in a support role but Riot says they want to put Karma in the mid lane.
    [*] Inner Flame Riot wants to put karma in the mid lane so the heal has been removed and i think its not good but i think its correct.
    [*] Focused Resolve Well, Riot changes this skill and now this is not a support skill anymore.
    [*] Inspire This skill is just better cause Riot add the movement speed boost.
    [*] Mantra Now this skill doesnt work with ammo system and has like 40 Sec CD, its just worst.
    I hope i expleined all in the right way ;)
    P.S. sorry for my bad english.
  • Answers (6)

    Pluckin Penguin (117) | March 29, 2013 9:42am
    I will break down each skill individually for you.

    Mantra: I will start with Mantra because it is kind of the whole concept that Karma revolves around. The change to it allows Karma's Mantra ability effects to be a lot more powerful because there is only in a sense one Mantra ability at a time since there is no longer "ammunition".

    Gathering Fire: This makes having one charge of Mantra okay because if you are constantly landing your AoE abilities on champions you can easily get the cooldown of Mantra to 0.

    Inner Flame: Allows Karma to sit further back in teamfights. Before, the old Karma relied on getting very close to land an AoE Fan Ability. This is very spammable as well. The added cc to it gives her even more utility.

    Focused Resolve: Well, I would definitely not say that it isn't a support skill. It definitely makes her roaming potential a lot stronger. The only down side to the change is that you can no longer use it on allies to give a speed boost. However, the speed boost has been added to her ability Inspire.

    Inspire: Didn't undergo as large of a change as the other abilities, but the change to the Mantra effect to give an AoE Shield is quite nice.

    In summary, sure Karma isn't as much of a support anymore, but she still provides a lot of utility to the team even when she is in the AP Carry Role.
    OTGBionicArm (415) | March 29, 2013 10:21am
    Before she could sustain a team but didnt have much beyond that. Now she has a little of everything (Minus AoE heals) and I think that will put her into top tier, be it support or mid, in my opinion.
    Pluckin Penguin (117) | March 29, 2013 10:16am
    I'm sorry if my message was that support was bad. I feel that her overall role in general on a team is just a lot stronger in general. I just feel that now with the crowd control that she provides she is a very strong roamer and has damage to support it.
    OTGBionicArm (415) | March 29, 2013 9:51am
    She's actually better at support now. Her base damage is insane, and she has amazing utility and pretty good CC. Old Karma couldn't support for **** because she had a ****py slow, and otherwise pitiful damage with no AP. She's also better at mid because she has easier burst and sustained damage and her abilities are less clunky. Also 40% CDR makes her Mantras fly left and right like they are nothing.

    To answer the "question"; she was definitely buffed.
    DKitten (78) | March 29, 2013 3:58am
    Gathering Fire is more useful in my opinion. If a mage is low on health, the chances of them staying low on health are slim to none, considering how focused they are.

    Inner Flame and Focused Resolve are a lot more powerful in my opinion. Karma doesn't have her heal, sure, but those skills are POWERFUL. Maxed Soulflare? AoE that does 500 damage WITHOUT ability power calculations. That's drool-worthy.

    And this isn't a "Question". You would have done better making a "blog entry".
    Tatticadanit0 (1) | March 29, 2013 4:04am
    Sorry, I did not know the existence of the "blog entry"
    Meiyjhe (539) | March 29, 2013 4:44am
    She deals more damage, but supports less due to the missing aoe heal.

    The slows, snares and shield are still enough though.
    She is strong, stronger than before.
    Pluckin Penguin (117) | March 29, 2013 9:43am
    I have to agree. The previous AoE heal was like nothing else, but they definitely made up for the AoE heal with the AoE Shield.
    CowDribble | March 31, 2013 1:40am
    She's a lot better, but I feel that she can be easily poked by long ranged champs especially ziggs.
    throatslasher (248) | March 30, 2013 7:19pm
    Giving karma a ****load of cc and a teamwide shurelyas/locket is not a nerf.
    Fousek (4) | March 29, 2013 6:39am
    She is definitelz stronger, but now i think she is more solo caster than support. If you´ll use mantras on Q and W.
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