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League of Legends (LoL) Question: What is the safest and most mana sustained AD Carry?

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  • OTGBionicArm

    What is the safest and most mana sustained AD Carry?

    I'm looking to try a new AD carry that better fits how I play at top lane (Farm, be safe, eventually outscale) so anyway, what carry would you all say would be the safest pick that holds itself up later in the game?
  • Answers (16)

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    PsiGuard (1495) | November 19, 2012 11:45am
    If you want a strong late game, go for Vayne, Kog'Maw or maybe Tristana (though she's typically more aggressive early game). If you want a safe early game, go for Caitlyn, Ezreal or Corki. Out of all of those, I believe Vayne and Caitlyn are the least mana dependent.

    For higher lane security, I suggest running 19/11/0 in masteries. I also like to run 21/2/7 or 19/4/7 on some of the more mana-intensive ADs, but if you don't want to sacrifice durability, you don't have to.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 5:04am
    Especially with Runaan's Hurricane, amirite? huehuehue.
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    Embracing (353) | November 21, 2012 5:02am
    her consistent range is what makes her good.
    her passive is also nasty in teamfights
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 4:54am
    But she does have good map control compared to other carries, which I love.
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    Embracing (353) | November 21, 2012 4:51am
    her damage isn't low. It's just her kit has no actual damage compared to other ADC's
    She's good esp since the nerfs.
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    PsiGuard (1495) | November 20, 2012 10:43am
    If she's behind after laning phase, her mid game is pretty blech compared to other ADs.  Mostly it's because she doesn't have any game-breaking abilities or strong steroids that let her duel people when she's behind on items.  As long as you use your range well, you should be fine.

    And as Pony said, her ultimate can be helpful if you can use it appropriately.  It can secure kills almost as well as a Karth ult.
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    Friendly Pony (1) | November 19, 2012 6:20pm
    her mid game is alright, the only thing people cant seem to see is that she does the same thing all game and they think she's weak because of that.

    I will say though that she does better in pokecomps usually, which you don't generally see outside of premades. Her ult is an amazing skill. 
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 19, 2012 4:46pm
    Berzerk tells me it's only her mid-game that is crippling, but her late game is fine due to range. I guess I'll try her.
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    Friendly Pony (1) | November 19, 2012 3:44pm
    No.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 19, 2012 2:59pm
    Now secondary question; is Caitlyn actually as bad past early game as people say she is?
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    Mowen (611) | November 19, 2012 4:12pm
    If you're talking specifically about top lane...

    I think Graves, Caitlyn, and Vayne would be your best options.

    Graves passive and waveclearing is good for top lane. He also has a escape and smoke screen to avoid those oh so common top lane ganks.

    Caitlyn can utilize the brush for more headshots, but mostly she has a really long range and that's hard to deal with for a lot of top laners. Her traps and net make her hard to gank as well and her ultimate works better in a 1v1 lane since it cannot be blocked.

    Vayne can kite well with her tumble and her silver bolts work wonders on tanky characters. Just make sure to save your knockback for when you get ganked. Once she has her ult she's a little harder to gank though it's better to use it aggressively.

    None of these champs have big mana problems as long as you don't spam their spells, and they can still be very potent without mana due to their passive abilities / range.
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    Mowen (611) | November 20, 2012 11:02pm
    I find the question rather strange since a lot of the AD carries that scale well into late game can also do well early/mid game.

    It's a lot harder to ignore the enemy bot lane since they have 2 champions instead of 1v1. If you're being passive they will probably be able to kill either you or your support. If they're aggressive they're going to be aggressive, and if they're passive and you're not aggressive you're wasting a valuable opportunity to get ahead. I haven't found any bot lanes that are just like "ignore eachother." Especially since aggressive supports are more popular at the moment.

    You would also need to get a support that can focus on protecting you from dying and that can play passively (without wasting their potential). This forces your support into a certain role which is hard for solo queue. 
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 19, 2012 5:39pm
    I meant at bot lane still Mowen. I just wanted to play the champions like I play top lane champions. (Farm and essentially ignore the enemy laner, as I main Cho'Gath) I wanted a carry that can do that at bot lane.
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    xIchi (65) | November 19, 2012 5:23am
    Save ADC are probably Cait and Ez, maybe Corki.

    Ez is kinda manahungry, but when you go 21/0/9 you should have less manaproblems on most AD Carrys (but you sacrifice some armor compared to 21/9/0. 25 Armor with flat armor seals on level 1)

    Corki can be mana hungry. Depends on how often you have to use Valkyrie, and if not, how much you harrass with Phosphor Bomb.
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    [deleted] (105) | November 19, 2012 2:05am
    The safest AD carry at the moment is probably ezreal, failing that learn vayne for a challenge and when you do thsi you should be able to play 90% of the other ad carry's perfectly.
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    Embracing (353) | November 19, 2012 1:55am
    Vayne isn't safe but she focuses on farming and outscaling

    Cait's safe and mana sustained if you don't spam spells but her influence is a lot less compared to other ADs mid game.

    Most ADs aren't mana sustained.
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    Jovy (953) | November 22, 2012 2:56am
    Kog isn't very mana sustained tbh

    also, aphromoo maxes E on Varus
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    Hogopogo (157) | November 22, 2012 2:21am
    O yea, did you consider Kog'Maw at all?
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    Embracing (353) | November 22, 2012 12:21am
    No reason to max W unless enemies are ******ed enough to duel against you...
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    Friendly Pony (1) | November 21, 2012 5:58am
    Just saying Aphro's maxed everything on Varus and tried other stuff, recently he said he doesn't like W max on Varus anymore and he's started maxing Q. I've never tried E max but I usually do W max, I find he really can't dual in lane if he doesn't max w.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 5:41am
    Yep, she's actually the last character I have yet to buy.

    And I thank everyone who took the time to discuss on this question. :3
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    Hogopogo (157) | November 21, 2012 5:35am
    Then i guess only Caitlyn is left? :P
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 5:08am
    She does. I've been playing around with her and Vayne and ultimately I hate both of them as characters and playstyle. I dislike Vayne's risky "make it to at least mid game" style, and I hate Tristana's inconsistency. She goes grom jumping on people in lane to being the standard "right click stuff" champion, and back to jumping on people at end game.
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    Hogopogo (157) | November 21, 2012 5:05am
    Well, not much of a Varus player so I wouldn't know ^^. Btw, I think Tristana might be a good choice because she can disengage easily.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 5:03am
    There's absolutely no point in charging Piercing Arrow unless you're running poke comp, normally you fire it immediately to proc Blighted Quiver. And yea I do max E from time to time. It's definately better than Q max.
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    Embracing (353) | November 21, 2012 5:01am
    I heard aphro always maxed e

    trust in aphro :)
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    Hogopogo (157) | November 21, 2012 4:59am
    I thought you max Blighted Quiver and then burst it with your Piercing Arrow for max damage?
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 4:56am
    Lol I usually don't even take a point in Q until 8. It's W fodder for me and maxing E second always feels more helpful. :p
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    A Chubby Baby (290) | November 21, 2012 4:54am
    i max Q. for aram :).
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 4:53am
    Varus is pretty flexible. Q Max is best poke. Max W for farm/dps lane. Maxing E is best for maximum control. I'd say maxing W is the best though because it's his main damage source as far as I'm concerned.
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    Embracing (353) | November 21, 2012 4:50am
    dont people max e?

    I always thought people maxed e because it was the best
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 21, 2012 4:49am
    He's mana intense if you max Q. I hate poke lane and charging Q drops his DPS so I max W which means better farming and committed fighting DPS. W max Varus barely uses mana ever.
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    Embracing (353) | November 21, 2012 1:23am
    Varus is a strong poker and bully but sadly he doesnt have an escape and is very immobile.
    I don't play him as much so idk about mana.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 20, 2012 1:49am
    Sadly not without Flash. However if the lane wasn't warded well enough, or you're pushed up to their turret, that's both you and your supports fault you got ganked in the first place. XD

    As far as against laners, Varus is pretty good at cutting off engagements before they happen with Hail of Arrows.
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    Hogopogo (157) | November 20, 2012 1:38am
    Can Varus get out of ganks?
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 20, 2012 1:22am
    What about Varus? Because I'm already good with him. He's pretty strong all game, especially on AoE Comp. He only really suffers against Blitzcrank in lane.
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    Embracing (353) | November 20, 2012 1:02am
    Trist has a horrible horrible mid game. 
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    FalseoGod (316) | November 19, 2012 9:09pm
    Don't go Vayne, it's not safe at all. You can escape one person at the most, your range is the same as most gap closers, etc. Bad plan.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 19, 2012 6:13pm
    Tristana is another possiblity. From what everyone's said Vayne, Caitlyn and Tristana are the finalists in my choice :p
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    FalseoGod (316) | November 19, 2012 6:11pm
    Still say Trist is a safe call
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    Embracing (353) | November 19, 2012 6:23am
    Naw corki needs AA+q+aa to punish ppl. VERY VERY VERy mana burning
    post 6 ult harass too.
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    Hogopogo (157) | November 19, 2012 6:00am
    Maybe corki if you don't spam? he has an easy get-away with his Valkyrie 
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    Embracing (353) | November 19, 2012 2:07am
    Ez is a safe farmer but he's mana intensive
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 19, 2012 2:04am
    I was thinking Vayne but she is very vunerable early. Caitlyn is pretty much the exact opposite of Vayne. I'll try both and see how it goes.
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    Banishedd (6) | December 5, 2012 9:26am
    Vayne is your best bet, since her skills cost relatively low mana. Ezreal scales extremely well, but is on the mana-hungry side. The same goes for Graves.
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    Vacuumen (5) | December 1, 2012 2:52am
    I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but I'd have to say Sivir or Twitch
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    elnawawi | November 20, 2012 4:09pm
    what about GP ? u can consider him other option
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | November 20, 2012 4:12pm
    this isn't for top lane. GP is a borderline support/bruiser anyway.
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    elnawawi | November 20, 2012 4:10pm
    or Maw
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    RickyMuzakki (1) | November 19, 2012 9:32pm
    Master Yi, Tryndamere and Fiora are fitting carry for top lane (riot tagged them as carry despite they're melee). Not so mana intensive and fit current meta for top laners. And relatively safe becase they had speed boost and escape mechanism. Tryndamere does not even use mana.
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    elnawawi | November 20, 2012 4:08pm
    agree
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    Linear (21) | November 19, 2012 3:17pm
    I find all ADCs good, as long as you don't darn spam the skills, you're good to go. :)
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    FalseoGod (316) | November 19, 2012 5:18am
    Hmm, Tristana? She has two escapes post level 6 (three if you get a flash), you hardly spend mana in lane anyway (in duo bot it's different, depends on lane aggression, but top? Not really)
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