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11.15 Support Tier List Patch 11.15

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This support tier list describes an approximate state of supports in solo-queue across skilled ranks. The order champions appear within tiers is sorted in alphabetical order.

s tier Tier 1

Overpowered supports that define the meta and perform above and beyond in their role.

A Tier Tier 2

Strong supports that are favourable in the meta and often outperform their counterparts.

b tier Tier 3

Good supports that can compete in the meta and succeed in certain situations.

c tier Tier 4

Viable supports that have the necessary tools to get the job done.

d tier Tier 5

Underpowered supports that lack the strength to be executed efficiently.

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(20) |

I really like how there is these kinds of patch notes, but with some text attached that explains how it impacts their gameplay. Also, the small text explaining what their overall gameplay style is, at the top is really nice.

(2) |

where is Shen even Sett here

(16) |

I removed Shen in the 11.11 update due to his small solo queue presence. I do not consider either Sett or Shen viable picks, but at the very minimum Sett is still very broad, if not popular, in solo queue and competitive play. I think that is enough to make Sett deserving of placement.

(15) |

Can neeko join the tier list? doesnt have to be very high but low c or even D tier if you dont like it. as i know most players dont like it but she can be devastating in the right hands ( see doglightning ) , shes basicly a faster more high risk lux with a better ult as a support, her q and empowered auto is a good poke tool that can wreck low range adcs like vayne, her w allows her to play mindgames with enemies or use it to escape and her e is an unconventional but effective root, as most people dont expect to be rooted through a wave by a 3 s morgana root and suddenly be half hp, her ult also is a high dmg stun that often results in a great lv 6 powerspike. so atleast pls if possible think about it and most other list do have her in there :)

(16) |

Neeko was once on the tier list briefly. I axed her, alongside a handful of other non-meta picks, because I could only go off my own limited perception of them. Historically, she hovered between C & D tier and once even ended up in the B tier. This is precisely why I eventually removed her. I cannot determine whether she is a good support pick, or if her rise in play rate would kill her as a support pick entirely. I watch Doglightning myself but a part of me still believes you need close to 1-trick experience to make her viable. Hence, I don't know if I could recommend Neeko; even as an underpowered support pick. Perhaps if she develops a player base, I'll be able to have a better evaluation of her strengths and weaknesses and add her back to the tier list.

Thanks for the comment. (:

(15) |

i get it seems weak but u need to try it out or look it up , she honestly performs better than every d tier champ on that list and u put those as supports, sett falls off once lv 8 hits and neeko screws him over with superior damage from range and an e root through minions, panth is harder till lv 6 and he literally cannot engage anymore thanks to your ult. volibear i didnt even know was played sup but everyone i see goes 0 6 and blames autofill and galio can easily get rooted and killed aswell as his ult reacted upon by her. does anyone actually unironicly play shen support ever since galio exists, he does everything shen does but better with less risk XD

it jus kinda makes no sense to me, dont get me wrong neeko has flaws as support but she is played and neeko supports are like shaco, playing the mindgame and drive enemy nuts, she is on every other tier list so i just kinda asked, ofc its your opinion and i cant stop anyone from that, but honestly she is a really good support in low elo especially and most adcs imet prefer her over lux as her ult is way more useful as a support than lux ks laser XD. her low playrate as both mid and sup comes from the fact that she isnt a popular champ in generel, but she can be played top , mid , apc and support so neekos do like to one trick her shes just very versataile and unlikely to get nerfed unlike others due to her clear weaknesses and relativly simple base kit, thx for the reply otherwise.

(2) |

Wow I feel sad knowing my Pantheon is D tier... I guess it is because if you cannot play him correctly and win the lane you are borderline useless but still he can be a powerful, game-changing weapon when played correctly, helping the ADC win the lane and roaming in the right moments.

(16) |

Yes, I agree. Pantheon can still control the game and end before 25 minutes. However, he gains less base attack damage from skilling his abilities in 10.21, so I find if he doesn't find a lead to make use of his attack damage ratios he can fall off hard.

Thanks for the comment.

(1) |

wait sett is a suportt

(16) |

He used to be a pretty decent support until Riot nerfed his base damage and buffed his ratios.

There is a lot of pro play footage with Sett support if you're curious. :-)

(1) |

thanks bro

(19) |

maybe im wrong bit i believe that seraphine was nerfed like one or two patches before.shouldnt that mean that she should have dropped to a or b tier?

(16) |

Not necessarily. Not all buffs and nerfs impact champions equally.

In 11.3, Seraphine lost 1-4 base damage per rank on her passive notes and about 10-20 base shielding. The shield nerf is somewhat notable, but otherwise, this is a small change. The nerf considered, I still felt Seraphine best fit the description of an S Tier champion.

Of course, Seraphine received much harsher nerfs in 11.5. You can expect her to drop in a future update. Thanks for the comment. (:

(19) |

ok thank you very much for explianing

(2) |

i do believe swain should be higher because of his carrying potential and good cc combos with most adc plus he can drag ppl with passive and tank

(16) |

I was contemplating moving Swain (and Yuumi) to the A Tier this patch. He is very oppressive in the lane phase. He can also be a reliable front-line with new itemization. The only thing holding me back is the uncertainty of the new season. There has been a lot of movement in this tier list for this patch in particular as I try to figure out the meta.

Otherwise, I generally agree. Thanks for the comment.

(43) |

I agree with S+ tier here for sure, I personally hate playing against , and will often ban her.
I feel like right now deserves S+ due to his overpowered nature with point-click cc and then the even tower shot blocking shield (which is insanity and Riot needs to nerf).
Nice tier list!

(16) |

Prior to this patch, I would say I had Pantheon at the top of S Tier and nearly at the cusp of S+ Tier. You may be right that Pantheon should have deserved S+ Tier at that time. I would say this is not the case anymore since, in 10.21, Pantheon's damage was shifted from his base damage to his bonus attack damage. I notice that if I respect Pantheon's early levels then post-six fights feel very winnable if played correctly. So long as my marksman can keep the minion wave from crashing under turret and getting dove it's not too hard anymore to play passive until Pantheon falls off. In my opinion, Pantheon becomes quite manageable if he doesn't end the game by 25 minutes. Otherwise, it seems Riot likes the concept of Pantheon support so he is likely here to stay.

Thanks for the comment!

(26) |

I'm new to Lulu, and it'll take me quite some time to master her, she's a champ that is so fun and strong
I usually go heal or poke when I support, never tank. I'll try to go Pantheon as sup... or you know what? Idc because I'm main ADC so... xD

Anyways, good luck :>

(16) |

Thanks. Good luck with learning Lulu.

(22) |

What's this?? A tier list full of descriptions and detailed explanations??? You have just created my favorite tier list, ever. Thank you for giving us so much insight on how you feel! As a Yuumi main, I definitely agree with her placement, and as a previous Sona main... again, same. If I'm completely honest, Yuumi feels a lot like a less maneuverable but more useful Sona, even down to her ult. They both have a heal, a fast (although Yuumi's fast is tucked into her heal), a poke, and a golden flashy ult with CC, just the cat and book does it better. Sona's still a viable champ (and usually my second choice), but I'm not surprised you placed them where they are.

Also, reading through your comments? You are so thorough in responding, and just, I really appreciate it. You seem to be a really nice person. Thank you for putting so much effort into a fun little thing like this.

(16) |

Aw, thank you. I appreciate it. :)

I've played a lot of Sona last season as well. I agree with your assessment. I think what keeps Sona in check is that she is very vulnerable and can be easily killed in a team-fight. In comparison, there are many situations where Yuumi can remain attached to a carry champion and remain untargetable. Yuumi can provide the same value, if not more, than Sona at much less risk. In particular, Yuumi's adaptive stat bonuses feel very overwhelming.

I would play Yuumi too if she didn't have 70% pick/ban presence. I think if Riot incentivized Yuumi to detach in team-fights, it would solve a lot of her balancing problems.

(118) |

Wow, thank you for the detailed Tierlist! I haven't seen such tier list before.
btw I guess you forgot the change 's place to tier D because it says "Demoted from C tier" on him.
I also like to know your thoughts on sup. I've seen some people trying it but I haven't personally tested it yet.

(16) |

Haha, oops. I don't keep archives of past versions, so I don't remember where Shaco was supposed to be, to be completely honest. I definitely made a mistake there, but I don't think I intended to place him in D Tier. I do believe Shaco is a niche but underrated support pick, similar to the likes of Maokai. Your explanation sounds plausible though. I have no clue how I made that mistake.

I've not seen Amumu support in a long time barring an unusual normal game. I don't think it would traditionally work since he is very limited during the lane phase. It will also be difficult to maneuver him outside of the lane phase, since he will probably be more volatile than before since support items don't offer him as much tank properties. If he chooses to build legitimate tank items, they will be too costly for his support income. I think his kit is too suited for the jungle since he can clear camps pretty adequately. He is also great with cinderhulk.

I would personally not recommend it. Perhaps it could work in Silver where players will not competently punish an Amumu pick. He could have great gank assist, so you may be able to snowball if you're camped. If you can somehow reach a late game with a hybrid mix of support & tank items, it wouldn't be any different from regular Amumu jungle during the mid game, but you would hit your items much later than normal.

Thanks for the comment!

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11.15 Support Tier List Patch 11.15

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s tier Tier 1

A Tier Tier 2

b tier Tier 3

c tier Tier 4

d tier Tier 5

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