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Sunndae's ADC Tier List Patch 8.5

Sunndae's Tier List Sunndae's Tier List
Last updated on March 16, 2018
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Destructive adc's

Very high potential to rule over Summoner's Rift.

2

Great adc's

Strong picks in most matchups.

3

Good ADC'S

Not always the best options, but still work

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DasNerdwork (17) | March 16, 2018 2:42am
I don’t know on what elo this guide focuses but imo Lucian shouldn’t even be considered as good ADC. He is the weakest pick in the actual ADC Meta with a winrate of 46 to 47 percent. And literally every other ADC can easily win against him. Also his passive is easily countered by the right support choice.
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Slowbob (8) | February 9, 2018 6:27am
Yo, great guide here :D I love the detail you put into why which champs were where... I would love it if you gave more champs reasons (especially , because i'm not sure where she is in the meta right now...)
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Sunndae (4) | February 11, 2018 4:01am
Thank you! I've just been kinda lazy to give every champ an explanation, but I'll work on it. As for Caitlyn she is good right now. Main thing is that she is the ADC with the longest range early, so she can poke the enemies in lane very hard and set them behind by missing out on lots of farm or dying. Her late is still somewhat weaker, but that's aspecially against hypercarries. Mind that Vayne was nerfed in a previous update, Kog'Maw in 8.3, so that's two down. But rly, as her dps is the best with just AA's (with traps if they were put down before the fight). With a full build she is bound to lose against for example Tristana, who has damage from her E and AS from her Q. So Cait is totally viable, just take care with strong late enemy ADC's.
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xXLiangLiangXx (5) | November 5, 2017 8:38pm
As for Xayah (warning you that I love Xayah), maybe she belongs up higher as well. I see a lot of people play her incorrectly, as well as make bad guides on her on MOBAFIRE. People say that you want to max her Q out first, which is totally incorrect!

The way to go is Q, E, W, then R > E > W > Q
To be honest, it took me a few games to figure this out, but once I did, playing Xayah became so much easier. You take Q first since you need the poke in lane, and your feathers allow you to poke enemy as well as clear wave more easily. You get E second because you need that to make use of her feathers. If you play it right, you can get a quick root with a single Q and an AA followed by the E. Her E is where most of her damage comes from, and you want to be able to use this ability as often as you can to keep dealing the damage.
E is next cause it's free damage on enemy champs during teamfights, a way to kite, and a way to quickly get extra feathers for her E. Also, you use the E to quickly chunk down towers and monsters.
Q is last because it's only poke. The amount of damage you get off of it isn't that good, and the fact that you have to be still while launching it sucks and can get you killed. That said, use it on a wave, 3 AA, then # to quickly clear the wave at higher levels.

Xayah's R is what can make her supper powerful. When used correctly you can turn around a fight with ease. The R lets her doge so many ults, and deals damage to the enemy. Then if you have your E up, it deals more damage on the way back and can root enemies too close to you, which is great. Sadly you cannot jump over walls with it. Personally, I do not engage with R, since that's leaving you with one less escape option.

tl;dr R>E>W>Q, land your E to deal the damage. Use W to kill towers. Use R to turn fights around.
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Sunndae (4) | November 6, 2017 2:56pm
Lmao, what a heads up xd
I'm not a fan of playing Xayah myself to be fully honest. She is a strong ADC, but I don't like the feathers all around, simple as that.
I did think, however, that maxing Bladecaller is the most effective way to go on Xayah, but I guess it depends on the build people like to follow, even if it's not recommended.

Anyways, I put Xayah in the second tier because she has an amazing DPS output, stun ability, and of course Featherstorm, which leads to more stuns. With all of this, she has a huge impact on teamfights, but she needs to set her feathers up first, which takes time, or some good thinking. Furthermore, positioning is ever so important for her in order to pull it all off. This is where enemies with a lot of mobility get an advantage. Another thing is that compared to the ADCs I put in top tier, she is not as great at taking the turrets. Objectives > kills in the end.
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xXLiangLiangXx (5) | November 9, 2017 8:42pm
To take objectives just use your W, the buffs really do help you chuck out towers quickly at the end. I've cleared a nearly full health inner tower with just a single W, cannon minion, and a couple auto attacks.

Though it's not as fast as Trist with her bomb and attack speed buff. The new runes are funny to play around with though, making some ADC much better.
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xXLiangLiangXx (5) | November 5, 2017 8:28pm
By the way, I learned something cool today in bot games. Xayah's ult can allow her to not take damage from Karthus' ulty since his ulty is considered an auto-damage ability, and untargetable negates damage from auto-damage abilities or spells.
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xXLiangLiangXx (5) | November 2, 2017 11:17pm
Personally, and yes I know I said personally, I would move tristana up to the top tier as well. Especially in lower ELOs, people have trouble stunning her in the middle of her rocket jump, so her escape is pretty good. Also with her passive, she can really kite people hard once she hits level 11. Then her E allows her to chunk towers down quickly and the E passive makes it easier to get poke damage. Her R also can allow disengages, or push the enemy into a sticky situation.

In general, my point about her is that she doesn't take much skill to be able to use properly, and her kit makes her very hard to kill while allowing her to deal lots of damage.
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Sunndae (4) | November 4, 2017 6:54pm
Mmh yeah, you have a good point. I was just thinking she can be shut down relatively easily early on, but I might not have given her enough credit for the compensation mid-game and her superb late. Tristana is indeed a top notch champion with a cool kit and a due to that a lot of pros. Should've put her a tier higher :d
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xXLiangLiangXx (5) | November 5, 2017 8:24pm
To start off. Glad to see someone who at least can consider other opinions. I've met too many people on here who are like: "NOOOOO! I'M RIGHT YOU WRONNGGGGG!!!!!!".

+Rep for you.

As for having her be shut down early, warding will help prevent that so that you can farm better and get better much faster. She needs to have the early-game weakness or else she would be too powerful. So being careful, warding, and having your jungle clear out bot side jungle is something that can allow her to get her power up quickly.
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