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You are on Blue Side
You start Red > Wolves > Blue and look to gank
Mid is in the middle of the lane. Both laners have all of their summoners as far as you know.
Your Top laner is pushing and due to some good early trades your laner is healthier than the enemy Top laner.
The enemy Bot lane came to lane about the same time as your Bot lane suggesting that they too leashed for their jungler.
I've found this to be a pretty common scenario. So many games I've gone up to ward the tribush to protect my laner from a 3:00ish minute gank by the enemy jungler and I've actually dropped the ward right on top of the enemy jungler sitting in the Tribush.
Often times this results in nothing except a little damage exchanged, but does nothing to change the overall balance of power on the map.
So, how about you walk past Gromp after doing Blue (assuming you are healthy enough and have enough mana) and get into the lane brush and setup for a countergank?
Boom, double kill.
What happens next? Are you healthy?
If no, do you see the enemy Mid laner? Does the enemy Top laner have Teleport?
If you don't see the enemy Mid laner, then you and your Top laner may just want to get out of Dodge. If this means the lane ends up in a place where the enemy Top laner can freeze the way near their turret then you are going to have to come back and help your laner reset the wave if they can't do it by themselves.
If the enemy Mid laner is accounted for and the enemy Top laner does not have Teleport then you should help your Top laner shove the wave into the turret. If you go by LS rules you should not Tax because you want your laners to get big and you simply assist them.
Since you know the enemy laner has to walk back to lane you've got a couple of options here. Go take the enemy Krugs and then look to gank the returning laner again. The Rinse and Repeat ganks tend to tilt the hell out of people which by itself could seal the deal on winning Top lane.
If you can account for the enemy Mid laner and the enemy Top laner has Teleport then you just leave the lane way where it is at and your Top laner can continue to farm with the main concern being that their Top laner had a chance to buy and top up on sustain.
In this scenario you can go sit in the lane brush again and gank the enemy Top laner as soon an he comes back to lane. Again the Rinse and Repeat gank. Per LS, Bengi uses this technique a lot. However you can only pull it off if the minion wave is in such a position that the enemy laner will not get vision of you from the minion wave. (Or they just don't pay attention to to fact that you dodged into the brush by the lane, but I wouldn't rely on that because they may just end up wasting your time by playing safely).
What if we rewind all the way back to finding the enemy jungler in the tribush when you drop a ward for your laner?
You back out and the enemy jungler backs out. What then?
Well if they were healthy enough to gank, they are healthy enough to clear Krugs and that is probably what most junglers are going to go do.
Can you do something about that? Maybe. Your laner is pushing remember. That means they can move to assist you if things go pear shaped. The enemy laner might be able to follow but they are going to be giving up farm to do so.
Try it. See what happens. Maybe you make a big play that puts the enemy jungler back a death and a portion of a camp. And for icing on the cake you pick up and assist on the enemy Top laner and your Top laner picks up the kill.
Or maybe they've got a
Jayce and you don't account for the fact that his Acceleration Gate will allow him to get to the skirmish a lot faster than your laner can and you die and then they tag team your Top laner for the double kill.
Regardless, you've got a game under you belt where you've thought about what are some likely scenarios and you've attempted to act on those scenarios. You learned something.
Flip that kind of thinking around and apply it to Mid and Bot lane. Red Side. Make it a habit to take the little bits of information and experience you gain during the course of each game and use them to press for advantages.
I used this strategy last night to pick up a kill on their Top laner and then I rinse and repeat ganked them for another kill while their Flash was down. That is when I discovered that you can't just go hide in the lane bush if the enemy minion wave is at a point where it can spot you, so I walked out of lane and came in through the tribush behind them.
I didn't win that game despite have a good early game, but I thought about the dynamics I was seeing unfold in the game and I acted on them, so overall that was a victory.
You start Red > Wolves > Blue and look to gank
Mid is in the middle of the lane. Both laners have all of their summoners as far as you know.
Your Top laner is pushing and due to some good early trades your laner is healthier than the enemy Top laner.
The enemy Bot lane came to lane about the same time as your Bot lane suggesting that they too leashed for their jungler.
I've found this to be a pretty common scenario. So many games I've gone up to ward the tribush to protect my laner from a 3:00ish minute gank by the enemy jungler and I've actually dropped the ward right on top of the enemy jungler sitting in the Tribush.
Often times this results in nothing except a little damage exchanged, but does nothing to change the overall balance of power on the map.
So, how about you walk past Gromp after doing Blue (assuming you are healthy enough and have enough mana) and get into the lane brush and setup for a countergank?
Boom, double kill.
What happens next? Are you healthy?
If no, do you see the enemy Mid laner? Does the enemy Top laner have Teleport?
If you don't see the enemy Mid laner, then you and your Top laner may just want to get out of Dodge. If this means the lane ends up in a place where the enemy Top laner can freeze the way near their turret then you are going to have to come back and help your laner reset the wave if they can't do it by themselves.
If the enemy Mid laner is accounted for and the enemy Top laner does not have Teleport then you should help your Top laner shove the wave into the turret. If you go by LS rules you should not Tax because you want your laners to get big and you simply assist them.
Since you know the enemy laner has to walk back to lane you've got a couple of options here. Go take the enemy Krugs and then look to gank the returning laner again. The Rinse and Repeat ganks tend to tilt the hell out of people which by itself could seal the deal on winning Top lane.
If you can account for the enemy Mid laner and the enemy Top laner has Teleport then you just leave the lane way where it is at and your Top laner can continue to farm with the main concern being that their Top laner had a chance to buy and top up on sustain.
In this scenario you can go sit in the lane brush again and gank the enemy Top laner as soon an he comes back to lane. Again the Rinse and Repeat gank. Per LS, Bengi uses this technique a lot. However you can only pull it off if the minion wave is in such a position that the enemy laner will not get vision of you from the minion wave. (Or they just don't pay attention to to fact that you dodged into the brush by the lane, but I wouldn't rely on that because they may just end up wasting your time by playing safely).
What if we rewind all the way back to finding the enemy jungler in the tribush when you drop a ward for your laner?
You back out and the enemy jungler backs out. What then?
Well if they were healthy enough to gank, they are healthy enough to clear Krugs and that is probably what most junglers are going to go do.
Can you do something about that? Maybe. Your laner is pushing remember. That means they can move to assist you if things go pear shaped. The enemy laner might be able to follow but they are going to be giving up farm to do so.
Try it. See what happens. Maybe you make a big play that puts the enemy jungler back a death and a portion of a camp. And for icing on the cake you pick up and assist on the enemy Top laner and your Top laner picks up the kill.
Or maybe they've got a
Jayce and you don't account for the fact that his Acceleration Gate will allow him to get to the skirmish a lot faster than your laner can and you die and then they tag team your Top laner for the double kill.Regardless, you've got a game under you belt where you've thought about what are some likely scenarios and you've attempted to act on those scenarios. You learned something.
Flip that kind of thinking around and apply it to Mid and Bot lane. Red Side. Make it a habit to take the little bits of information and experience you gain during the course of each game and use them to press for advantages.
I used this strategy last night to pick up a kill on their Top laner and then I rinse and repeat ganked them for another kill while their
Flash was down. That is when I discovered that you can't just go hide in the lane bush if the enemy minion wave is at a point where it can spot you, so I walked out of lane and came in through the tribush behind them.I didn't win that game despite have a good early game, but I thought about the dynamics I was seeing unfold in the game and I acted on them, so overall that was a victory.
:)
No problemo. Just trying to talk through some of the things I see repeatedly in my games and figure out how to take advantage of them. Glad it seems like it might be of use to you. Happy ganking!