Super OTG World: Season 5 Shenanigans

[quote=mastrer1000][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=mastrer1000]Have you stopped playing [[nasus]]? also fuck azir.[/quote] I stopped playing doge like mid S4. He got replaced by [[Aatrox]] and [[Jarvan IV]]. This seasons gonna be mostly OP's tho. and hey I like birdman.[/quote] The birdman's laning phase is bs. He can bully me out of lane while I sit under my tower without anything me or my jungler can do about it because his range is completly ridicoulus.[/quote]

[quote=Jovy][color=#999AF2][b][size=5]runes:[/size][/b][/color] [list][*] flat AD marks - AD is your best damage choice, you can poke with your auto-attacks instead of relying on your AD to poke/relying on your low damage abilities (QW), one of which is high mana cost, too. Using your shield with these gives you a lotta poke. [*] flat armour seals - can go with flat HP in seals, but then you have to get at least 2 armour quints [*] flat magic resist [*] flat AP [/list][color=#999AF2][b][size=5]masteries:[/size][/b] [size=5][url=http://i.imgur.com/CwLxRwT.jpg][font=Georgia]p i c t u r e[/font][/url][/color][/size] [color=#999AF2][b][size=5]items:[/size][/b] [columns width=450][img=http://i.imgur.com/9lVh0wF.jpg width=450][nextcol width=10][color=transparent]||[/color][nextcol][color=#999AF2][size=5][b]classic[/b][/size][/color][/columns] [columns width=450][img=http://i.imgur.com/kdOqau0.jpg width=450][nextcol width=10][color=transparent]||[/color][nextcol][color=#999AF2][size=5][b]aggressive[/b][/size][/color][/columns][/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Sort of related question, how do you feel about 4-5-21 vs 0-9-21 on her?[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]If I wanted the CD that bad I'd go 09-00-21. I want the points in defence.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Ok, thanks![/quote]

[quote=XeresAce][quote=Luther3000]Janna's Q width is severely nerfed right now on PBE, you can be pretty much 100% sure nerfs are coming next patch.[/quote] I call bs on that (the nerf, not the validity of the info). Either way it wont change shit 8D EDIT: MM what do you think about armour marks? I've been using them for a while. Might switch to ad to see if it's any better[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Armor marks hardly serve tanks well let alone ranged champions their use abilities or auto attacks to harass. But I digress, Jovana, thank you for the build. I'll try it out, but I've had some terrible experiences with the 0/9/21 page on champions like [[Nami]] and [[Sona]]. Afraid to try it on [[Janna]]. :/[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][center] [h3]Game 2: Ice Bitch vs Chojira[/h3] [i]"The Watchers will return..."[/i] [url=http://i.imgur.com/BxiDP52.png][img=http://i.imgur.com/BxiDP52.png width=500][/url] [b]Runes:[/b] [color=#ff0000]Hybrid Pen[/color], [color=#ffff00]Scaling Health[/color], [color=#00ffff]MR[/color], [color=#ff8000]AP[/color] [b]Masteries:[/b] 21/0/9 [b]Things I learned:[/b] [list] [*][[Cho'Gath]] is super annoying at a certain point. [*]AD [[Malzahar]] has surprising early game pressure and dragon control. [*][[Lissandra]] is an amazing antiKat. [/list] [b]Things I need to improve:[/b] [list] [*]I feel like I built too conservatively with [[rod of ages]]. I probably could have pressured Cho harder. [*]My early CSing without AP for waveclear is awful. [*]While I had great usage of self targeted [[frozen tomb]], my enemy targeted uses were lackluster unless it was on [[Katarina]]. [*]I was too afraid to engage when [[Malphite]] or [[thresh]] didn't, I gave up a lot of picks. [/list] [b]Summary:[/b] Early laning phase was poor for me, I was last hitting poorly. I was healthy and full of mana (careful use of Liss passive), but Cho was beating me in CS the entire time by at least ten. I played the roam game well however, securing some much needed kills for Malphite, who was getting stomped by [[Katarina]]. We seemed to be winning early and mid game as Malzahar started the game with a double kill and solo'd dragon at 7 minutes. We had 4 dragons before they got one. But at a certain point our damage fell off a cliff due to A. having AD Malzahar, and B. [[Varus]] refusing to buy a [[Last Whisper]] (he opted for [[runaan's hurricane]]). He eventually got one, but by then our nexus exploded. For first time with Liss in ranked, I feel like I did well, but not well enough. I will need to train my last hitting much harder early on, as I seem to get much better when I can full waveclear. [b]Questions of the Game:[/b] [list] [*]Should I have rushed [[Morellonomicon]]? [*]Is AD Jungle malz legit? Seemed like it. [*]Why do ADC's hate [[Last Whisper]]? [/list][/quote]

[quote=Out Of Pancakes][quote=OTGBionicArm] Should I have rushed [[morellonomicon]]?[/quote] Yes. I'm far from being a solid toplaner but from what I've seen, this is the common rush AP item for every AP mid/top champion. The stats it gives for 2200 gold are amazing plus its passive could've helped you against Chojira. I also remember seeing in a pro game a top Liss rushing [[morellonomicon]] and [[ionian boots of lucidity]], thus getting 40% CDR -> this puts your maxed Q on a 1.8 seconds cooldown, and your level 3 ult on a 48 seconds cooldown. Have you made any teleport plays?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Yeah, that's how I was getting kills for Malphite because [[Katarina]] was getting too aggro.[/quote]