Non-Conventional Supports

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Hatted]Rylai's with Morello might have been more supportive and I think you could run Face the Mountain with some luck.[/quote]wat. [[Frost Queen's Claim]] seems like a better call on [[Fizz]]. There's really no reason to run [[Face of the Mountain]] on [[Fizz]] and I'm pretty sure [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] is all sorts of redundant.[/quote]

[quote=Hatted][quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Hatted]Rylai's with Morello might have been more supportive and I think you could run Face the Mountain with some luck.[/quote]wat. [[Frost Queen's Claim]] seems like a better call on [[Fizz]]. There's really no reason to run [[Face of the Mountain]] on [[Fizz]] and I'm pretty sure [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] is all sorts of redundant.[/quote] I feel like with a frost active and a his dash he could pull off some serious slow. Face the Mountain was just an idea; I feel I'm better off not thinking about ways to make a support fish (sorry nami).[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth]Vel'koz is a my fav non-meta support. As someone else mentioned, don't pick him into Leona. I've also found that Xin Zhao jungle can be a problem for the slow and squishy central eyed purple tentacled beast. The nastiest bot lane that I've seen besides Blitz + Alistair was a Volibear + Riven lane. Every time Rolling Thunder is off cooldown Volibear can toss Riven a squishy snack. But those setups are two non-meta picks for bot lane. Honorable mention to the Malphite supports. Is Malph 6th? Yes Are the enemy laners dead? No Why not?![/quote]

[quote=Hatted][quote=VexRoth] Honorable mention to the Malphite supports. Is Malph 6th? Yes Are the enemy laners dead? No Why not?![/quote] OH MY GOD NO, HOW DID I FORGET!?!??! I love Malphite so much and he was maybe one the first non-meta supports I played and you are so right. Quote me this for the rest of my lifetime, when Malphite hits 6 it's goin' down. I play him mid more often now and I just build Iceborn, Ult, Q, W, E, win. SO HYPE![/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Hatted][quote=sirell]http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/1918910550/28896771?tab=overview The opponent was running a support [[rengar]], fml. The ADCs were irrelevant for about 20 minutes because they just kept getting deleted.[/quote] THOSE AREN'T SUPPORTS, THO! Rengar had more farm than Vayne, and your ADC has more assists than you do. There's a difference between supporting and just going bot lane. Your build looks a whole lot like a plain ol' fish. Rylai's with Morello might have been more supportive and I think you could run Face the Mountain with some luck. Either way, not a support.[/quote] Support means you help your carry, and sometimes the best way to do it is basically put them at your back and carry them with all the kills you get. I swear to god I've nearly always built full ap/almost full AP as a support up to Plat 3, because 99% of the time my adcs were greedy/cheesy/stupid. I'll only build as a true support (ofc always sightstone) and behave as such when my carry shows me ingame (unless premade) that he/she can be trusted, and that means that every single decision they make makes sense and they aren't crybabies. Unreasonable children can butt off and ride the full ap karma/lulu train.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]I guess support [[Fiddlesticks]] is unconventional now, I fucking love that champion I also enjoy support [[syndra]] every once in a while[/quote]

[quote=Hatted][quote=Mooninites]I guess support [[Fiddlesticks]] is unconventional now, I fucking love that champion I also enjoy support [[syndra]] every once in a while[/quote] I love to play support Fiddle. But sometimes ya get carried away and drink someone's soul...[/quote]

[quote=Darealone][[annie]] support is the best.[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=Hatted] THOSE AREN'T SUPPORTS, THO! Rengar had more farm than Vayne, and your ADC has more assists than you do. There's a difference between supporting and just going bot lane. Your build looks a whole lot like a plain ol' fish. Rylai's with Morello might have been more supportive and I think you could run Face the Mountain with some luck. Either way, not a support.[/quote] Well, I don't really see a huge difference. I placed the most wards down (20) and I could really have just bought a [[sightstone]] if I didn't just feel like rushing damage items. I mean, I was pwning [[vayne]] with just a [[doran's ring]] and an [[aether's wisp]] for about 10 minutes or so and letting [[twitch]] get all the CS. I'm using the same masteries and similar runes to when I'm running [[vel'koz]] or any other AP oriented support. It's like saying support [[vel'koz]] or [[morgana]] isn't a thing just because they are doing all the killing. There's no written rule saying that ADC must get all the kills, especially when you're playing a secondary AP carry anyway.[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]My favorite must be [[master yi]]. I prefer playing AP [[malphite]] in the jungle myself.[/quote]