MAOKAI TOP LVL 1 start

[quote=Troy Sin]Is it just me taking both small raptors and wolf camp with Mao? starting Crystaline flask and tp back to lane.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I believe that koreans like starting E on maokai and taking the small raptors right when they spawn to make clears for your jungler easier, and to get to level 2 faster[/quote]

[quote=Troy Sin]yeah i know, but doing 3 E's on raptors (killing small ones) and then go to wolfs killing them all[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I feel like doing that will just set your jungler behind by a bit since they lose out on a lot of EXP since you've killed basically 2 camps.[/quote]

[quote=Troy Sin]yeah mb if its reksai or some with strong aoe dmg, but if its not like most. Wolf camp is not worth smiting early and killing the small raptors can acutally help ur jungler since they do lots of dmg and dont give much xp or gold. Most junglers start red side anyway and dont kill wolfs at first clear?[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Yeah, clearing half your jungler's camps in their first clear is definitely not doing them a favor. Just take one camp. There is no reason to clear more of the jungle when clearing just wolves or raptors will get you to level two.[/quote]

[quote=Troy Sin]I really think there is, ppl have by now figured out that mao will do camp at lvl 1. therefore they freeze the lane, which will make it less advantageuos for mao to do 1 camp, getting some extra xp and gold, will make up for the freeze. Since the lane will be pushed against u no matter what, comming a bit later to the lane. Also u will for sure get lvl 3 first, which u otherwise wont, also u get lvl 4-5-6 and so on before ur opponent.[/quote]

[quote=Troy Sin]Further more i find crystaline flask being better than dorans ring early. taking the "two camps" at lvl 1 gets u enough gold to buy a small hp regen which i use for Either Reighteous glory (instead of ROA) or Ohmwrecker, Warmogs. Also u can get a green ward. making it possible to get Sweeper trinket lvl 1. (using E for vision in lane) And getting some more pots. this makes it possible to sustain and farm untill u have tp up again while being very safe from ganks.[/quote]

[quote=lanilwow]Depends on who your jungler is. With [[jarvan iV]] I take krug, red, wolves, either gank mid or take raptors, then back. Gank is purely dependent on if the mid pushed to our tower and how much mana they expended to do it. With some junglers you maybe able to do it but you could really screw your jungler. I think asking first is always the best practice. Remember the goal is to strength the entire team.[/quote]

[quote=NorthernRedStar][quote=Troy Sin]Further more i find crystaline flask being better than dorans ring early. taking the "two camps" at lvl 1 gets u enough gold to buy a small hp regen which i use for Either Reighteous glory (instead of ROA) or Ohmwrecker, Warmogs. Also u can get a green ward. making it possible to get Sweeper trinket lvl 1. (using E for vision in lane) And getting some more pots. this makes it possible to sustain and farm untill u have tp up again while being very safe from ganks.[/quote] I like RoA on Mao. Makes you tanky, gives sustain in teamfights to run more kit rotations and actually makes you a credible damage threat mid game.[/quote]