A new way for tank junglers?

[quote=Mooninites]1000 gold for an item that gives 300 health and does 5 (+1*lvl) damage per second is pretty efficient and even brokenly efficient in the jungle[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Sejuani is actually the most viable tank jungler atm just because her ult is so god dam good you just need to farm till 6 its even better than vi. Her and nunu are about only tank junglers you see anymore. There buffing alot of junglers zac, naut, volibear, xin, skarner all got buffed where vi and nidalee got nerfed. Also there giving gragas a similar buff to nidalee he can do more dmg to monsters and he now has alot more mana after the w nerf long time ago his spells costed way to much.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=NicknameMy][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=NicknameMy]Everything counts for that aspect, it doesn't matter what you fight. Also, dat Voli jungle, 6K HP confirmed. Dat W is gonna do massive damage and he is unkillable. Also [[rolling thunder]] + Chilling Smite + [[Righteous Glory]] + [[ghost]] + [[boots of swiftness - Distortion]] = GG.[/quote] That's a bit overkill on the MS. He'd do fine with Mercs and a normal build. No need to build silly items like Righteous Glory in the name of MS. Also I still hold that flash is better than Ghost for champions like Volibear.[/quote] Why not get an item with 650 HP and 300 Mana that also makes your initiation easier? Also, it is important to stay close for 3 attacks so you can use your damage of doom.[/quote] Problem being is that [[Volibear]] is not an initiator. He has very pool tools to actually do so, and building a fuck ton of MS is only adding more of a stat that doesn't actually help him initiate. He gets kited anyway. That's I think [[Flash]] is almost necessary to use [[Rolling thunder]] on carries. I say this only because you seem to get overly excited about SYNERGY, but usually on the parts of a champion that don't need item synergy. IE; MS on Vbear, Attack-Speed/On-hits on Cho, etc.[/quote] So, why is then Diamondprox using Ghost+Righteous Glory on Volibear jungle? Is he a scrub?[/quote]

[quote=Hatted]That's bad news for everyone. I build Voli with 5 Warmogs and Boots of Swiftness. Now I'll put on Cinderhulk and chomp them with fire for a guaranteed kill. This might make Cho jungle more fun, since his health scaling is amazing. Super happy to see the return of the Ancient Golem passive; now I can have a shit ton of health due to heaving health.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Don't forget to combine that with the Gromp, 10% over 3 seconds (3.33% per second) is a huge scaling for getting hit. Combine with [[Thornmail]] and well, ADC's can only kill themself. Hi, me [[rammus]] :D.[/quote]

[quote=Hatted][quote=NicknameMy]Don't forget to combine that with the Gromp, 10% over 3 seconds (3.33% per second) is a huge scaling for getting hit. Combine with [[Thornmail]] and well, ADC's can only kill themself. Hi, me [[rammus]] :D.[/quote] Ok. Rammus, confirmed God-Tier jungle, now and forever. Bow before your turtle savior.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri]I just played a couple of games on the beta realm with [[nautilus]] and it was *awesome*. Yes, the Cinderhulk effect is like a [[sunfire cape]] but you can get it a lot sooner. Plus, the cooldown on [[nautilus]]'s [[riptide]] is so short now. I just put 2 points in shield, 1 point in anchor, and then maxed out [[riptide]]. He can clear so much faster now and dish out some decent damage. I think I might go back to having [[nautilus]] as my main again. Keep in mind that the 25% bonus health acts on the 350 health from the Cinderhulk itself. So, you get slightly less than 450 health from Cinderhulk alone.[/quote]

[quote=Hatted][quote=MungoGeri] I think I might go back to having [[nautilus]] as my main again. [/quote] Marry me.[/quote]

[quote=Chawoora]What are your thoughts on this? At first I was like...whatever, I could have just rushed a [[Sunfire Cape]]...but. Win rates for tanky junglers have shot through the roof on the 5.5 patch. The top 5 highest win rate junglers (via champion.gg) are [[Sion]] (58%), [[Sejuani]] (58%), [[Nunu]] (56%), [[Volibear]] (54%) and [[Amumu]] (53%) (that is Plat+ games). I played a few games as Sion jungle yesterday and man was he strong. His clear times were pretty solid even building Stalker's Blade over Ranger's Trailblazer. He could farm well enough to get a solid build going and late game he was just an unkillable monster (pre-6 ganks weak and ult not the easiest skill to use). Maokai had been my go to tank jungler. I am not sure if Cinderhulk helps him quite as much (but I have been focusing mostly on support lately). Have the tanky junglers risen?!?[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth]They nerf (and will again) [[Sion]]'s E, means weaker lane. But they lowered mana cost on Q, means stronger jungle + Cinderhulk makes you stack hp 25% faster. Last game as jungle I had around 3500 hp with only Cinderhulk as health item xD[/quote]