Janitsu wrote:
You can discover games and not pre-order them. Also, define "gamer".
A person that plays video games for their own personal enjoyment and opinion and the willingness to discover new content on their own. It doesn't matter that IGN thinks the game you like is bad, what matters is that you like it as a gamer.
Short Term Goals: Silver/Gold/Platinum || Long Term Goals: Diamond/Master/Challenger

I mean, if you like games that have bad controls, bad gameplay, bad story or any combo of the three, go ahead and play them. Just know they're not nearly as good as the "good" games that IGN or anyone on the steam comments would recommend for various reasons.
I will fully admit that there are some games that people hate that a lot of people love, but I feel that it's kind of a rare case.
I will fully admit that there are some games that people hate that a lot of people love, but I feel that it's kind of a rare case.

So what the heck has that got to do with pre-ordering, lol?
I can see you're trying to be philosophical about it, but you're really not. The focal point of games was never really self-discovery (it might have been secondary though) and often times, gamers play games to escape themselves rather than to discover themselves.
Games were always about having fun - how that fun occurs comes in different ways, but don't try and blag it into self-discovery, lol. Gamers are just people who play games. The reason why they play games is really pretty subjective.
Not that any of this has anything even remotely to do with pre-ordering, lmao.
Like I said, what does pre-ordering actually offer? You get the game on release and often very cosmetic extras that don't even matter, lol. You might get a pass for any extra DLC if it releases, but again, that's just a monetary issue, not a game-related issue; it doesn't improve the game in any way that not pre-ordering doesn't.
I can see you're trying to be philosophical about it, but you're really not. The focal point of games was never really self-discovery (it might have been secondary though) and often times, gamers play games to escape themselves rather than to discover themselves.
Games were always about having fun - how that fun occurs comes in different ways, but don't try and blag it into self-discovery, lol. Gamers are just people who play games. The reason why they play games is really pretty subjective.
Not that any of this has anything even remotely to do with pre-ordering, lmao.
Like I said, what does pre-ordering actually offer? You get the game on release and often very cosmetic extras that don't even matter, lol. You might get a pass for any extra DLC if it releases, but again, that's just a monetary issue, not a game-related issue; it doesn't improve the game in any way that not pre-ordering doesn't.
I like learning, and I like theory crafting ideas from bad ones to make them into good ones and expand upon bad things to make them good things. I have no intention of having my gaming experience barred by this phrase. "This looks intriguing, I guess I better go and see if Greg Miller likes it." I would rather buy a game from a studio that was know for releasing sup-bar games that are kind of glitchy than any Nintendo made game you can throw on a shelf, or any high rated game by steam reviews. Because, **** Super Meat Boy. I hate that game.
Short Term Goals: Silver/Gold/Platinum || Long Term Goals: Diamond/Master/Challenger

sirell wrote:
So what the heck has that got to do with pre-ordering, lol?
I can see you're trying to be philosophical about it, but you're really not. The focal point of games was never really self-discovery (it might have been secondary though) and often times, gamers play games to escape themselves rather than to discover themselves.
Games were always about having fun - how that fun occurs comes in different ways, but don't try and blag it into self-discovery, lol. Gamers are just people who play games. The reason why they play games is really pretty subjective.
Not that any of this has anything even remotely to do with pre-ordering, lmao.
Like I said, what does pre-ordering actually offer? You get the game on release and often very cosmetic extras that don't even matter, lol. You might get a pass for any extra DLC if it releases, but again, that's just a monetary issue, not a game-related issue; it doesn't improve the game in any way that not pre-ordering doesn't.
I can see you're trying to be philosophical about it, but you're really not. The focal point of games was never really self-discovery (it might have been secondary though) and often times, gamers play games to escape themselves rather than to discover themselves.
Games were always about having fun - how that fun occurs comes in different ways, but don't try and blag it into self-discovery, lol. Gamers are just people who play games. The reason why they play games is really pretty subjective.
Not that any of this has anything even remotely to do with pre-ordering, lmao.
Like I said, what does pre-ordering actually offer? You get the game on release and often very cosmetic extras that don't even matter, lol. You might get a pass for any extra DLC if it releases, but again, that's just a monetary issue, not a game-related issue; it doesn't improve the game in any way that not pre-ordering doesn't.
All of that sounds like a the words of a peasant casual. Please, run along and play Call of Duty. The gamers are trying to talk.
Short Term Goals: Silver/Gold/Platinum || Long Term Goals: Diamond/Master/Challenger

We gave you a chance to actually say something with some actual content in it, you didn't. Instead you went on and attacked sirell.
Then he probably shouldn't be such an easy pick at that kind of thing. It would easy to ignore him, all he had to do was stop posting while he thought he was ahead.
Short Term Goals: Silver/Gold/Platinum || Long Term Goals: Diamond/Master/Challenger

I've been a hardcore gamer for over a decade, lel. That's why I know that there's ******** decisions to be made in pre-ordering, lmfao.
If you saw the amount of **** that's in my Steam library alone and how many hours I've clocked on some of them, lol. I clocked about 100 hours the week after Skyrim's release and that was just working around my uni schedule and while I was playing LoL. That's not to mention all the extra stuff I played on portables.
Cute try, though. Really makes you look like a hardcore peasant. (y) Have a cookie. Come back when you actually have, y'know, an argument instead of just ********ting other people, lmfao.
If you saw the amount of **** that's in my Steam library alone and how many hours I've clocked on some of them, lol. I clocked about 100 hours the week after Skyrim's release and that was just working around my uni schedule and while I was playing LoL. That's not to mention all the extra stuff I played on portables.
Cute try, though. Really makes you look like a hardcore peasant. (y) Have a cookie. Come back when you actually have, y'know, an argument instead of just ********ting other people, lmfao.
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You can discover games and not pre-order them. Also, define "gamer".