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Creator: Vynertje August 3, 2015 11:59am
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Here judge for fun.
I'm Overclocking to learn, and got some pretty nice things for doing so i think...

Points to know before telling me things i already know: Ik the z87 is like 2 generations back, i got one for like 40 bucks so i thought eh why not. I didnt feel like getting skylake stuff, cause people from linustechtips, and a few other places told me, nahhhh for gaming the haswell series is just fineeee. So Since i locked into z87 i got a 4770k for about 280. I got a Noctua NHD-14 for 45 dollars. I wanna try air before water cooling, for my own knowledge, and from what i told this thing is a BEAST. so i thought cooool lets do this too. The last thing i cheated on was the 960 FTW 2GB series. And ik, this **** is NOT as good as a few other gpus. And honestly i'll upgrade this thing later, maybe in a few years? But i tried it on my bro's rig, and it runs Witcher 3, Dragon Age, and SC2, at ultra/high, and held a good 55-60 fps. so i was like GREAT this will do just fine. Picked it up for 138.

So Long story short, i cheated ALOT OF OLD GEN PARTS, that are/considered still very good.

i7-4770k Newegg price: 400, got it for 280.
Noctua NH-D14 Newegg price:75-100, got it for 45.
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card Newegg Price: 209, got it for 138.
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H: Newegg Price: 40, use to be 120-140.

Savings on parts I COULD cheat: 326.
the rest of the parts are here,
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/arcana3/saved/

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It's pretty much top-of-the-line hardware even though CPU/mobo date two generations back (and having latest-gen CPU isn't that important for games) until you look at the GPU and monitor ;)

The first gen haswell doesn't overclock that well though and these chips generally don't pass 4.5GHz on standard air/water cooling, so don't have any crazy expectations.
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Arcana3 wrote:
i7-4770k Newegg price: 400, got it for 280.

SO GO AHEAD TELL ME WHAT I DID RIGHT AND WRONG CAUSE WHY NOT, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

That CPU is likely a big mistake. Going for an i5 6600K would not only save money and pretty much identical gaming performance, but it would also allow you to transcode new video formats like VP9 and H265 much more efficiently. Transcoding video is one of the main benefits of an i7 over i5, but with the generational leap the trascoding capabilities also increased.
That leaves pretty much only advanced rendering as a scenario where that i7 actually has a benefit.
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Searz wrote:

That CPU is likely a big mistake. Going for an i5 6600K would not only save money and pretty much identical gaming performance, but it would also allow you to transcode new video formats like VP9 and H265 much more efficiently. Transcoding video is one of the main benefits of an i7 over i5, but with the generational leap the trascoding capabilities also increased.
That leaves pretty much only advanced rendering as a scenario where that i7 actually has a benefit.


Couldn't find one for under 400, and this is my first rig, so ik there are things to improve on. tbh, idk even know those formats of video. I usually make music, and PS stuff, but i am interested in streaming, so do those video formats have anything to do with that? If not, what do you use those video formats for?

Side note: I got this for Music, Streaming, Gaming, and PS. I went with an i7, because of music and PS. If not would have gotten an i5 since thats all u rly need for gaming.


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It's pretty much top-of-the-line hardware even though CPU/mobo date two generations back (and having latest-gen CPU isn't that important for games) until you look at the GPU and monitor ;)

The first gen haswell doesn't overclock that well though and these chips generally don't pass 4.5GHz on standard air/water cooling, so don't have any crazy expectations.


Yeah yeah ik, this is mix match of parts at its best haha. First rig, so i'll improve with time. Gimme those monitor update specs tho. I'm finding it hard to rly find the top of the line moniters that aren't ya know... 1k. I'm looking more in the 400 range. I'm not going for a 1440 Resolution, or curved etc. I just want a good decent one. I looked at ACER, and BenQ, and the other top line brands, but the one on my list, is something i found on some forums that rated highly enough so i got it.

Whats a good choice for a monitor atm? They look fine for like 10+ years. Maybe not atm, cause they are advancing like CPUs, which is quickly, but in the past they were pretty solid if u just a few and had them for years.
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Arcana3 wrote:
Couldn't find one for under 400

You couldn't find this for under 400$?... You mean you couldn't find the i7 for under 400, right? I clearly stated i5 several times, not to mention that model number 6600 is only i5, i7 is at 6700.
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i am interested in streaming, so do those video formats have anything to do with that? If not, what do you use those video formats for?

They're currently only used for recording video, not streaming. Streaming will come later as more mobile devices (phones/tablets) pick up accelerated decoding capabilities. In a year or two we will likely start seeing those formats being widely used for streaming. VP9 is already used on Youtube though, so it might already be usable on Youtube Gaming (streaming site).
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I got this for Music, Streaming, Gaming, and PS. I went with an i7, because of music and PS. If not would have gotten an i5 since thats all u rly need for gaming.

... and what exactly about music/PS requires that much power?.. Photo and sound editing is not heavy in the least. It's moving pictures (video) and 3D modelling/animation that are the heaviest things right now.
An i7 is way overkill for you. An i5 6600K would have been more than enough.
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I'm looking more in the 400 range. I'm not going for a 1440 Resolution, or curved etc. I just want a good decent one. I looked at ACER, and BenQ, and the other top line brands, but the one on my list, is something i found on some forums that rated highly enough so i got it.

Well, if you don't need 120+hz and would like good colors then Dell makes some pretty good IPS displays.
There are mainly 3 to choose from.
1) 1920*1080, 23.8 inches, 250cd/m2, 280$
2) 1920*1200, 24.1 inches, 300cd/m2, 310$ (basically the same as the above with higher brightness and 10% more extra screen added in height, which is nice for doing stuff like reading or general desktop stuff)
3) 2560*1440, 25 inches, 350cd/m2, 400$
They all have good color reproduction and latency (don't look at ms specs, manufacturers often lie) and the specs are pretty much the same aside from the brightness; cd/m2 is maximum brightness. Having a brighter screen is helpful if you use it in direct sunlight.

But if you don't care too much about color accuracy you could just grab a 144Hz monitor for a similar price.
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\... and what exactly about music/PS requires that much power?.. Photo and sound editing is not heavy in the least. It's moving pictures (video) and 3D modelling/animation that are the heaviest things right now.
An i7 is way overkill for you. An i5 6600K would have been more than enough.


I use alot of rendering stuff on PS. My research pointed to RAM and CPU as important aspects for rendering and PS. I use tons of Plugins and such, so i didn't know how it would handle, so i just trusted what the internet said.

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Well, if you don't need 120+hz and would like good colors then Dell makes some pretty good IPS displays.
There are mainly 3 to choose from.
1) 1920*1080, 23.8 inches, 250cd/m2, 280$
2) 1920*1200, 24.1 inches, 300cd/m2, 310$ (basically the same as the above with higher brightness and 10% more extra screen added in height, which is nice for doing stuff like reading or general desktop stuff)
3) 2560*1440, 25 inches, 350cd/m2, 400$
They all have good color reproduction and latency (don't look at ms specs, manufacturers often lie) and the specs are pretty much the same aside from the brightness; cd/m2 is maximum brightness. Having a brighter screen is helpful if you use it in direct sunlight.

But if you don't care too much about color accuracy you could just grab a 144Hz monitor for a similar price.



ok ty, ill look into it.
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Arcana3 wrote:
I use alot of rendering stuff on PS. My research pointed to RAM and CPU as important aspects for rendering and PS. I use tons of Plugins and such, so i didn't know how it would handle, so i just trusted what the internet said.

Still shouldn't be too demanding, I don't think.
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ok ty, ill look into it.

Oh, right. If you're gonna do a lot of photo editing/artwork then color accuracy is obviously gonna be nice. Didn't click with me until now :3
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Moved from the other thread:
Using something called CPU-z it said my ram voltage is 1.5v? Is that too high?

Yup. 1.5V is standard.
You'll probably wanna upgrade in that case.

Here are the two options:
43$, 15-15-15-35 latency, large heat-sink.
53$, 14-16-16-31 latency, but probably more importantly: a less stupid heat-sink that doesn't take up unnecessary space.
Both are 2*4GB and 2400Mhz.
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Searz wrote:

Well, he'll be using a more power-efficient CPU, so even if his GPU will draw more power that should be compensated for by lower CPU power-draw. Still might be worth just checking the wattage on the PSU to make sure.

And yeah, new OS.. *cough*****microsoftjustpirateit*cough*


Should add that lots of pre-built PC's don't even have more than a single 6/6+2 pin connector though, and I personally wouldn't want to use molex->pci-e adapters to fix that.
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True. Let's ask him to check then.

OTG? Power wattage on PSU? And how many 6-pin connectors does it have?
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