7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Latest Legend]well you're a noob[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][[kindred]] also, although not amazing at it, deals better with invades than some champions who'll have to downright try to cheese it and hope for the best (like [[rengar]] or [[kha'zix]]). She can Q + W + Q in 2 seconds and, at level 3, has a pretty good slow on E. Her ult early-mid game in brawls will usually only let her come out on top if she has the damage to finish with AA + Q + AA when it pops out. However, the ability becomes more and more useful as your team gets damage because it allows you to deal with tanky divers much better if they lack good displacement (your nearly dead carries get free damage on the tank and such). It's a bit disappointing that the biggest counterplay to her is cc'ing her and blowing her up before she can ult or go away.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender][quote=Vapora Dark]I had a Kindred main insist to me on reddit yesterday that Kindred ult is awful and the worst part of her kit.[/quote] It is an overrated ability on the surface. By no means a bad ability though.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=FalseoGod] It's a bit disappointing that the biggest counterplay to her is cc'ing her and blowing her up before she can ult or go away.[/quote] Alternatively, you can just have some sort of displacement effect ([[explosie cask]] comes to mid)[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=utopus][quote=FalseoGod] It's a bit disappointing that the biggest counterplay to her is cc'ing her and blowing her up before she can ult or go away.[/quote] Alternatively, you can just have some sort of displacement effect ([[explosie cask]] comes to mid)[/quote] That is known, but it needs perfect timing. Explosive cask often is a good ability for engaging or counterengaging, if you're saving it for the moment [[kindred]] ults then someone else had to get to her/catch her. It's similar to what's happened to me with [[lee sin]] players: they engage me, we fight, he starts getting low, ults and I ult at the end of it, when their killing Q would arrive. I get him low and now he either w's away to safety or does his best to hit double Q on me again, the alternative being his death.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=utopus][quote=FalseoGod] It's a bit disappointing that the biggest counterplay to her is cc'ing her and blowing her up before she can ult or go away.[/quote] Alternatively, you can just have some sort of displacement effect ([[explosie cask]] comes to mid)[/quote] But what if Kindred's bot?[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Vapora Dark][quote=utopus][quote=FalseoGod] It's a bit disappointing that the biggest counterplay to her is cc'ing her and blowing her up before she can ult or go away.[/quote] Alternatively, you can just have some sort of displacement effect ([[explosie cask]] comes to mid)[/quote] But what if Kindred's bot?[/quote] [[alistar]]? :^)[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]I was referring to this. [quote=utopus]([[explosie cask]] comes to mid)[/quote] Hilarious, I know.[/quote]

[quote=Phil Collins]Is there a reason as to why malphite is higher than udyr on the jungle list?[/quote]

[quote=utopus]What support can best prevent a [[rengar]] from assassinating someone on your team?[/quote]