Searz wrote:
Well there's a clear connection.
Both are doing the same thing, only for different reasons.
One group thinks that the slogan is stupid (which I kind of agree with, but doesn't that encompass 90% of all ad slogans?.. Selective outrage when it comes to stupidity is almost equally stupid) and/or that the campaign is body-shaming. While the other thinks it's unethical to show off a woman's body.
I'm not big on the comparison between the two groups, but modern feminism does make me very sad. An unfathomable amount of idiotic **** is done in the name of feminism every day, and it just gets harder and harder to look away.
********'s a pretty good fertilizer
Searz wrote:
The concept. It's idiotic.
Searz wrote:
And this is a case in which I'm pretty sure vandalism is negative.
The_Nameless_Bard wrote:
Yes, because Tumblr/other internet morons should be the basis for your opinion on "modern feminism" and not the vast majority of women who call themselves feminists and don't act anything like the stereotyped ******** everyone likes to perpetuate.
Well I'm glad you're denouncing that **** at the very least. I wouldn't mind seeing this issue being brought to light to the general public feminism, so stances could be taken against that, making it a social hurdle to partake in any such activities.
I may be using the wrong term though. Maybe "New Wave Feminism"/"Third Wave Feminism" is more correct?
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it's not ok for people who actually identify with what feminism is supposed to be (a movement supporting gender equality) to say "not all feminists are like that"
I think it is. Why wouldn't it be?
Latest Legend wrote:
This is not modern feminism, nor is it Islamism. The people who did this did it because they think every body is beach ready, it has nothing to do with women rights or the Islam.
You really think Islamists think that they're beach ready? XD
Your point has already fallen apart. Try again.
Ekki wrote:
It is real though.
You're seriously saying that "rapeculture" is real? Are you ****ing kidding me? Even our resident feminist (Bard) is denouncing that stupid **** like it's the plague.
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You're just sticking the negativity you associate with vandalism to feminism.
Damn right I am. Why wouldn't I?
Feminism is not like ethnicity. Seeing black people do something illegal and then looking at black people more negatively would be racist, because skin color has nothing to do with behavior. Feminism on the other hand is an ideology, a way of thinking, and if this way of thinking could influence people to do vandalism then such deeds are obviously going shine a negative light upon the ideology associated with the people doing the deeds.
"Moral justification is a powerful disengagement mechanism. Destructive conduct is made personally and socially acceptable by portraying it in the service of moral ends." - Albert Bandura
"Ultimately, if people lose their willingness to recognize that there are times in our history when legality becomes distinct from morality, we aren't just ceding control of our rights to government, but our futures." - Edward Snowden
"Ultimately, if people lose their willingness to recognize that there are times in our history when legality becomes distinct from morality, we aren't just ceding control of our rights to government, but our futures." - Edward Snowden
Meiyjhe wrote:
Is it just me or is vandalism always a bad thing?
Clearly it's just you.
"I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m ****ing ******ed but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache†and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding." - Guuse
"uh, I identify as counterstrike and I find this globally offensive" - ???
"uh, I identify as counterstrike and I find this globally offensive" - ???
I don't think "rape culture" in the new ridiculous internet definition exists. However, we do live in a culture (at least here in the US) where rape victims, whether male or female, are regularly blamed for being raped or just told they simply were not/could not have been raped and where rapists are regularly apologized for in the media, which is a serious problem. We won't fix that by screaming "rape culture" at everything though.
Rape culture!
Serious part: I still don't see why a little hate campaign about some ad leads to incomprehensible generalizations. Also I didn't say anything about Islamists so I don't get what your point is supposed to be. I believe I clearly stated why feminism and Islamism have nothing to do with weight loss advertorials in my opinion, and I haven't seen you convince me otherwise yet.
Serious part: I still don't see why a little hate campaign about some ad leads to incomprehensible generalizations. Also I didn't say anything about Islamists so I don't get what your point is supposed to be. I believe I clearly stated why feminism and Islamism have nothing to do with weight loss advertorials in my opinion, and I haven't seen you convince me otherwise yet.
********'s a pretty good fertilizer
Jimmydoggga 2.0 wrote:
I wasn't sure how someone can make such an ignorant statement but then i remembered he lived in a European country and not in Australia/Southern USA and I was like ahhhh k
Ah yes, Australia, where woman pride themselves on being *****s so they can be "what men want". It's equally as bad as the extremist feminists.
HiFromBuddha wrote:
Ah yes, Australia, where woman pride themselves on being *****s so they can be "what men want". It's equally as bad as the extremist feminists.
We both live in Australia and that's not what I'm seeing.
Even more disturbingly you're seeing a lot of *****s for a 16yo.
Basically MOBAFire.
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And if you want a perfect example of why I dislike modern feminism just look at "rapeculture".
I wasn't sure how someone can make such an ignorant statement but then i remembered he lived in a European country and not in Australia/Southern USA and I was like ahhhh k