Amumu, A force to be wreckon with or just a...

[quote=Rinerine]Hi all, first post!! Recently got back into League... Finally got my account to lvl30 after a lot of grinding and raging at the toxic environment that ensues with it. I guess the right term to use is my main is Amumu, love that little guy and too me it seems like no one likes him and a friend of mine tells me he is a terrible hero and not good anymore. But i have played probably over 100 games with him and have tried countless builds, been on here to follow builds while playing him. Everyone has been running TrailBlazer, but whats wrong with RuneGlaive? I see a couple builds from it which sparked my interest once i saw it. With his lock down and his passive reducing magic resistance i feel like this is a perfect match for him. Maybe i am dead wrong and a newb to items and item optimization. Maybe i need to study the game and figure it out more. I notice a lot just say well you have to build him this way. Amumu has to be built as a tank, only way he works. I feel like that is wrong. I have found recent success running him as an AP with a tank item depending on who the opponent is. My current build has been RuneGlaive,Socerer boots,Liandrys,Abyssal,ryla's, and the last item being dependant. IF we are ahead i continue and get the deathcap, if its even or we a bit behind and i need to sustain long enough to get my ulti up then i go Zhonyas and bandaid in, pop it and allow my teammates to get closer as the opponents come on me then pop the ulti. With this being said, Am i wrong with this build on Amumu, or is it viable for him? I know every game dictates different situations, but for the most part i have not found a reason to not go this build due to all the lockdown and initial burst of dmg that allows for my ADC/MID/TOP to clean up[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I mean, he does have some pretty good AP ratios. The two issues are that AP items are expensive, and cannot always be bought - Jungling is a very gold restricted role, so it'd probably be difficult to buy a [[needlessly large rod]] in one recall, unless you're incredibly far ahead... in which case it wouldn't really matter anyways. The other issue I have wiith AP amumu is that you don't provide much utility to your team outside of your ulti. Having only health from 1 item and armor/mr from 1 item means that ADCs will shred you very quickly. The issue becomes that you need to land a godlike ult for your team to win the fight - otherwise, they'll be in a 4v5 basically. If you miss your ulti on important targets, then you may have just single handedly lost your team a team fight.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Most of the items in that build are usually bought on Amumu anyway, except for the one you deem as optional. Replace Runeglaive with cinderhulk, Sorc shoes with merc treads and get a Frozen Heart and you've got tank Amumu.[/quote]

[quote=Rinerine][quote=utopus]I mean, he does have some pretty good AP ratios. The two issues are that AP items are expensive, and cannot always be bought - Jungling is a very gold restricted role, so it'd probably be difficult to buy a [[needlessly large rod]] in one recall, unless you're incredibly far ahead... in which case it wouldn't really matter anyways. The other issue I have wiith AP amumu is that you don't provide much utility to your team outside of your ulti. Having only health from 1 item and armor/mr from 1 item means that ADCs will shred you very quickly. The issue becomes that you need to land a godlike ult for your team to win the fight - otherwise, they'll be in a 4v5 basically. If you miss your ulti on important targets, then you may have just single handedly lost your team a team fight.[/quote] I rely on ganks and early team fights for the gold :-P. But i see where you are coming from. But in my case i usually focus on the ADC in fights to lock him down. He is my priority so i dont have issues with that as much as when i go with the tank build. With the tank builds i fall off. Low dmg output and become useless in my eyes. Again though it could be do the the non rank level matches.. [quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Most of the items in that build are usually bought on Amumu anyway, except for the one you deem as optional. Replace Runeglaive with cinderhulk, Sorc shoes with merc treads and get a Frozen Heart and you've got tank Amumu.[/quote] I was running a build like this, cinderhulk, merc,frozen heart was my core and depending on situation id go for rylas and then more tank, however i felt like i was proving zero to actually killing heros and becoming more of a number for the ADC to crit down. LEts face it when Jinx is criting everyshot for 500-600, 3k life is not much... I feel with this AP cannon build and focusing the ADC as the target and with a well placed bandaid, ulti and E makes the ADC a quick meal! Zhonyas for incase i dont have time for the ulti right away Im going to continue tinkering with the build. I feel like his dmg as an AP is there more so then tank. HE is no NAR,mundo, or alistar, but i see him as a less broken Viegar (1000ap) as for burst dmg. Like i said maybe i dont fully understand items and item optimization yet, but i feel like he has a lot to bring to matches in every match up, more so jungling, however i have been running him as a support, and a couple times top. We will see. Thank you for your guys input!![/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlDSepLDwtg] That basically sums up my opinion on Amumu and how you build him.[/quote]

[quote=Kitzzeh]Why do you guys think that so many movies with "The Mummy" appeared? Hue hue xD[/quote]

[quote=SignError][[enchantment: runeglaive]] only deals AoE magic damage on basic attack to monsters. It's mostly used for mage champions who are mana hungry and don't have AoE clear. While Amumu is mana hungry, he has more than enough AoE clear via [[despair]] and [[tantrum]]. So Runeglaive doesn't help Amumu in the jungle, and because the Spellblade AoE damage only happens when you attack monsters, it doesn't help him out that much in teamfights either (other than the item stats, of course). I agree with Jimmydoggga, Get Cinderhulk, and then you can go some more AP damage. [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] and [[Liandry's Torment]] in particular work well together and give you tankiness via health. But you really need some armor too, and [[frozen heart]] or [[Randuin's Omen]] are great options which also counter attack speed or crits, respectively. I would also get either [[Ninja Tabi]] or [[Mercury's Treads]], unless you are doing exceptionally well.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]ATM i would say [[iceborn gauntlet]] > [[frozen heart]] in any situation. Because of that, [[enchantment: runeglaive]] is kinda unneccesary.[/quote]