Assassin Mastery?

[quote=Vengenator][center][icon=weapon expertise size=100] [size=7][color=#ff0000]ASSASSIN[/color][/size] [size=5]Deal 1.5% increased damage when no allied champions are nearby[/size] [/center] [color=#E8570C]Thoughts on this mastery? I feel like it'd be pretty good on solo laners, as it's pretty much damage amp for laning phase. Especially for laners with high kill potential, not just assassins. Even outside laning phase if you duel someone even with an ally nearby you still get the damage amp. (So duelist would probably be a better name) Also does anyone know the radius of nearby champions for damage amp to work? [size=1]PS: Mobafire update masteries pls[/size][/quote]

[quote=Ekki]I don't like how it works the same for solo lanes than for actual assassins. They should have added level scaling so that it's less effective for solo laners and actually more effective for assassins. The radius is 800 units (8 [[teemo]]s), which is a bit more than your average ranged auto (600 units is average for adcs iirc).[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=Vengenator][size=2]PS: Mobafire update masteries pls[/size][/quote] Without being able to go into too much detail, I just want to mention the devs are working on this, but it requires a pretty big overhaul of the mastery system on MOBAFire, which of course also affects a ton of old guides (so it has to be done right). Hopefully this will be live soon :)[/quote]

[quote=Vengenator][quote=Ekki]I don't like how it works the same for solo lanes than for actual assassins. They should have added level scaling so that it's less effective for solo laners and actually more effective for assassins. The radius is 800 units (8 [[teemo]]s), which is a bit more than your average ranged auto (600 units is average for adcs iirc).[/quote] [color=#E8570C]Isn't 550 more average for adcs anyways I don't see how level scaling would help, and what if your solo laner is an assassin? I feel like it should be renamed to duelist or something[/quote]

[quote=Vengenator][quote=Wayne3100] Without being able to go into too much detail, I just want to mention the devs are working on this, but it requires a pretty big overhaul of the mastery system on MOBAFire, which of course also affects a ton of old guides (so it has to be done right). Hopefully this will be live soon :)[/quote] [color=#E8570C]Just pull a ubisoft =p[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri]If it's only an 800 radius, then that makes a little sense why it would be called "assassin." If an assassin sneaks in and tries to take out a squishy member of the enemy team's back line, they still might get the bonus even during a team fight.[/quote]

[quote=Vengenator][quote=MungoGeri]If it's only an 800 radius, then that makes a little sense why it would be called "assassin." If an assassin sneaks in and tries to take out a squishy member of the enemy team's back line, they still might get the bonus even during a team fight.[/quote] [color=#E8570C] The biggest issue is that it's a [b]radius[/b], which means even if you are positioned in a manner where you are technically far away from your team (ie: terrain), the radius would still encompass them. Maybe they could make it like the fog of war reveal, where it's sort of a dynamic vision radius. Let's say there's an enemy at red side blue buff. Your team could be taking dragon while you go for the kill, but if there's a large circular radius there might be a chance that some fool taking scuttle crab is close enough to deny you the assassin buff. Either way, I hold my case that it should be called duelist rather than assassin.[/quote]

[quote=Ekki][quote=Vengenator][color=#E8570C]Isn't 550 more average for adcs[/quote]Yeah. I had it rounded up in my memory, hence the "iirc" :P [quote=Vengenator][color=#E8570C]anyways I don't see how level scaling would help, and what if your solo laner is an assassin? I feel like it should be renamed to duelist or something[/quote]In lane you'll always be alone except for jungle ganks. Mid/Late game non-assassins tend to stay along their team, whereas assassins go in and deal the damage while being far from their team. By adding level scaling you would be nerfing it for some non-assassins, while keeping it useful for assassins. But yeah, splitpush duelists would still use it, so I guess changing its name to "duelist" sounds like a better idea.[/quote]

[quote=Zetrick]I've seen my low elo friend take this on ADC. Not a good idea dear friend.[/quote]

[quote=Vengenator][quote=Zetrick]I've seen my low elo friend take this on ADC. Not a good idea dear friend.[/quote] [color=#E8570C]I mean I think taking [[assassin]] on top and mid lane would be quite beneficial[/quote]