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I really love your guide and how much thought you put into it! I was wondering if you are going to do an update of your Lux Support guide anytime soon? I'm using your mid-guide now to play Lux AP support, but I'm interested if there is anyway to optimize my build/items/runes, given that I... well... play support :p.
Also I was wondering if you could do a little more explanation on why we're not using Luden's anymore? Many Lux guides still recommend Luden's Companion, but I'm sticking to your guide. I feel like my builds without Ludens are just better, but I can't really explain why. In any case, I don't like the fact that Luden's is a gun now xD It just feels wrong on Lux... xD
I think Horizon Focus is absoutely amazing. I love how it gives vision, especially on support Lux. It can help teammates to chase down enemies. I'm a little more in doubt about Malignance. I feel like I need it for mana, but I'm not so sure about the ability haste on ultimate. Do we really need that? Some games I feel like I even more ability haste on my ult, but there is also lots of games where I feel like I have more than enough cooldown on my ult. What do you think? Also considering Lux support?
I would love to hear from you! :)
~Yanaike
Yes I remember you!! Welcome back to League :)
I absolutely will be updating my support guide soon! It's been a long time coming since the start of this season for sure and apologies for not updating it sooner- theres just so many changes and I have not had the time for my support guide yet! Even just updating this guide takes a while, especially during the beginning of the season when they drastically change builds based on item changes early on. For Lux support rn, you can either go AP and follow this guide, besides of course getting the support item (Zak'Zak is the best for AP). For support, dream maker is the best if you're going super shields! Staff -> Moonstone/shielding item -> Imperial is kinda the main build but tbh you can be really flexible with this depending on the game (ardent for a lot of attack based, etc). I hope to get it updated soon for you but I hope this helps a bit!
As for Luden's, its been a really bad item since the new season. They nerfed it heavily and took away the magic pen, which is what made it the best mythic for Lux last season. I think its gotten 2-3 buffs so starting this patch, its not a bad item at all! I would highly suggest using it if you like burst Lux, especially in the support role where your items are limited based on gold so every item counts. The reason why malignance is so good is because its just a solid item stat wise and the pool is actually really cool. Since its based on damage, ive had dragon or teamfights where I've made a HUGE puddle and it really helps a lot with zoning in fights. Also your ultimate is about 19s at level 16 if you have ultimate hunter on top of this. Once I am level 16, I will use my ultimate really liberally to get carries low right before an objective and they're forced to back, try to steal objectives, etc. There have even been fights where I get to ult twice and it feels really good! Or you can get a pick and then siege mid and have your ult back up again for their defense. Her ult with elder and malignance is also really dangerous - i have only used my ult on a full health carry and killed them with elder lol. I was really hesitant about malignance in the beginning of the season but its an overall really good item for Lux.
I do think, however, Ludens will be the go-to once its a better item since Lux's primary idea is burst. I have not played this patch enough to know if we can swap it fully over to Ludens yet but its definitely getting there. You're so right though, the gun on Lux feels out of character and almost illegal lol.
Horizon has been absolutely fantastic this season and tbh the vision exposure is insane and really underrated!!
I have been going malignance -> horizon -> rabadons in most of my games and it has felt soooo good! We will see how the patches change the Lux build though, especially bc on the PBE before this season, stormsurge and shadowflame were a really dynamic duo for Lux (and burst in general) but storm has gotten some massive nerfs since then.
I hope my explanations help and please feel free to ask any more questions if you have any. Best of Lux in your games :)
Luxeon
I went ahead and created a more convenient way to view the matchups. I split them into 4 categories instead of 5 - and I even added a Table of Contents for each champion! Just click on the champion you want and it will take you right to that profile! Hopefully that helps with better convenience and visibility :)
Luxeon
I appreciate that a lot <3 thank you for supporting me!
Haha if you ever want, I can definitely watch a game or two to help out! It's always a great idea to watch your own games to see what you think you're doing wrong and might need to change in future games! VOD reviews are soo important for improving!
Luxeon
I realize you do offer it as an option, but wouldn't
Also I'm not super sold on getting
I haven't played Lux this patch yet so take the above criticism with a grain of salt. I'm more asking questions than actually claiming that you're wrong.
And no worries about claiming I'm wrong, I'm always open to criticism and if I'm wrong, I'd be glad to go change things since it will open my eyes as well since this is all new stuff! I'll share my thought process with you and I could be totally wrong about all of this and maybe I will end up liking and suggesting Luden's only in the end of this (Of course this is fresh stuff so everyone is trying to figure out what is best and who works best with what items), but here we go!
I'm actually still on the fence about Luden's vs Seraph's and that's why I recommend both on my guide, but I was going to hopefully play with them a lot more and see which one is really superior soon and decide permanently. I know a lot of people were asking about what to get on Lux now so I wanted to get my ideas out there, but also make room to make adjustments when necessary.
Luden's does SEEM like a better item for waveclear and since she is a poke mage, but there are two reasons why I still am kinda turning away from it. The first big reason is that I want the splash damage for poke potential but I also have to rely on it for waveclear on those pesky back minions. If you use your E on the whole wave or use your E and it doesn't have those three ranged minions in the middle of your bubble, Luden's won't even kill the back minions and you will have to go up and auto them anyways (or use your Q which can be dangerous in lane, or they might die before you can even get to them since they'll have low health after your E damage and then will die before you even have the chance to auto them). The second reason is because it only gives 500 mana. Lux's E has a 130 mana cost at level 5, and constantly spamming that (which you will need to do at least once every wave, if not twice to kill all the minions), Lux will run out of mana way too fast. I can definitely see Luden's being a good item if you want to try to roam and snowball but due to mages waveclear being so quick, lately it's been let's clear the wave fast and farm back and forth and back and forth until one of us runs out of mana and has to go back, we try to kill each other, or someone wanders to another lane. Also in teamfights, I'm usually able to throw 3-4 E's out beforehand which is 520 mana, and then use all my spells definitely more than once in the teamfight, which is 360 for all my spells and even more if I'm using a spell more than once. After we hopefully win the teamfight, I'll be using my E to push out waves and take turrets and maybe even take an enemies camp or two before going back, or maybe help with an objective. All of this uses A LOT of mana. Even with
I like Seraph's because you won't have mana problems and then you are also able to take
Also for waveclear, Seraph's into just a
As for
I also have to test
In the meantime, let me know what you think of my points and I'm fully open to any more criticism you have because I'd love insight on what you might think is best, as my thoughts could have big flaws that I'm just missing out on, and I also want to make sure to have the correct information down for this guide as well!
Thanks Psi again and sorry about the long post, thank you so much for the read
Luxeøn
Can't really say much about your replies other than they've given me something to think about. I really need to play Lux and try some of this stuff before I can draw any real conclusions. I'm still leaning towards
I might be overvaluing
Also this is a small thing, but I feel like since there are pretty good "greed" items you can buy right now (mana item into deathcap into magic pen), I'm not sure if
Also yeah, I think twin shadows is definitely not as good, I overvalued it because I used to do a build that was frost queens claim first instead of morellos, and you could snowball off of that, so seeing the ghosts really excited me but that build was because frost queens gave extra gold and was cheap. Plus, in most of my games, my support gets Twin Shadows anyways unless it's a tank support.
As far as Mejais, I honestly didn't even look at that item, but that's a really good point. Plus, you can just get Spellbinder if you want the movement speed and even more burst potential, RIP Mejais on Lux since there are such good snowball options now.
Thanks again for all this, it made me really sit down and fully think through everything using games and actual number statistics (you should see my spiral and all the math I did haha). I'll keep working with it and hopefully a resolution will come soon.