Zilean Build Guide : Support Zilster Patch - 10.22 :: League of Legends Strategy Builds

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Yoyo I just got a question, but is Domination secondary w/ Ravenous Hunter viable

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That could be viable paired with sorcery as the main rune set, the extra health back is useful for sustaining Zilean. I would try it out, it sounds like a good idea.

- Wise Owl

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really good build and very in depth! what is your item import code?

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Hey man, this is a great Zilean guide and I've been using it for months! Do you think I could get the item import code from you? Thanks in advance!

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I was wondering who you would recommend as some good synergies with Zilean? If not specific champs, what kind of kit would be a good combo with Zilean's

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Hiya,

Sorry for the late reply, some synergies for Zilean would be: Jinx, Jhin, Ashe, and any other champions that can take advantage of locking down enemies with their own slows/stuns, and then Zilean can build on it.

Thanks,
- Wise Owl

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Something just crossed my mind. I saw a build that uses resolve for secondary runes, and it made me think "wouldn't Zilean's ult always receive the max (15%) boost from revitalize?" This wasn't one of the chosen runes, the guide had Font of Life and Bone Plating. Once you have pretty high AP, maxed ult, and if revitalize does effect your ult, 15% might be enough of a boost to revive all but the tankiest champs to full health. Of course the problem I see is that this is more of a long game strategy, where you'll only really reap the benefits late game.
I do like the idea of focusing more on rounding out what Zilean lacks as a support, mostly healing with Font of Life. If you don't land stuns you're not going to be much of a use anyway, at least in my experience, so your teammates healing off of attacking enemies could be a big help. This might pair especially well with Ashe and Kai'Sa who can either give their AS a massive boost or abilities that hit enemies a lot at once.

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Hi there!

Sorry for the late reply, thanks for the comment though, you've made a very good suggestion in giving Zilean a tankier/heal focused build. I will have to test it out in league and see if it would make a solid alternative build for him. The long term strategy might be viable as it relies on Zilean's late game strengths.
Thanks again for the suggestion, I'll see how it goes!

- Wise Owl

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Very nice guide! :) I think it's really good you covered the weirdness of Riot's min movement speed. Too many people think that 99% slow is essentially a root.

I'm not sure I agree though with leveling 'E' before 'W'. With 'W' maxed, youc an spam out your stun combo, but if you wait till almost lvl 18, you'll be doing about half as many stuns. With 1-2 levels in 'E', you can usually speed up your ADC to kite or slow your fleeing foe down enough without the extra three levels. I also wrote an AP Shyvana Guide if you're interested in checking it out :). Here's the link: https://loldata.info/champion-guide/ap-shyvana/

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Wait, you say that you level up E 2nd bcz W is not as usseful but in the guide It's shown that you level up W 2nd, soo which one do you level 2nd?
One more thing, I never played encahnter supports but I know that some of them used to take the item named Ardent Censer and I can't see you mentioning him anywhere, is it somehow good on Zilean or not?

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Hey there!

Saw what you meant with E and W, I made a recent change to my levelling and forgot to edit that part, so thank you for pointing it out. To clarify I now level W before E in preference, it will be in my guide now.

In terms of Ardent Censer, it has changed a bit over time, but at its current position it can work with the build quite well, I'd put it in place of something like Shurelya's Reverie. It has AP, Mana regen, Cooldown Reduction, Movement Speed and also increased healing/shield power. While Zilean only heals with his ultimate when reviving, the Summon Aery rune sends shields to an ally you target with your E, so it can be effective. I'd give it a go, and I'll have a look at it in depth for my guide possibly.

Thanks,
Wise Owl

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Hey just a heads up but it says you put 5 points into Q right away (with 1 point into R at 6) but you can't do that, you'd do 4 points then be forced to level another ability and THEN finish maxing Q

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Hi there!

At your request I checked out my ability order, and as far as I can see it goes Q,W,E,Q,Q,R for the first six levels on the first page. Unless it is hidden somewhere specific in my guide I cannot see it anywhere, sorry.
Let me know if you know where about on my guide it is if you can.

Thanks,
- Wise Owl

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I mean the first 5 points in 5, sorry.
By level 8 it'd force you to put a point in either W or E and Q would be unavailable to be levelled, it's a mechanic to stop you from quickly maxing a single ability and had me really conmfused as to what to level because the guide was saying "level Q" but I couldn't

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Thank you for pointing that out, I'd forgot about that obscure little rule when I designed the levels!

All fixed now in my guide hopefully, thanks again for spotting that.

- Wise Owl

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Hello :]

I just wanted to point out that you have Nimbus Cloak before they changed the speed buff to correlate to summoner spells not ultimate activation.

Love the Guide

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Hey there!

Thanks for the tip, got it fixed up now.

Thanks,

- Wise Owl

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When you take Summon Aery, you can activate Athene's Unholy Grail and Ardent Censor with your E and your Ultimate. I've been having lots of success with these two items. Are they worth using or have I just been getting lucky?

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Hi there,

I remember when Summon Aery first came out I had the same idea and incorporated both items into my build. After many patch notes and suggestions I gradually changed from the healing and protecting approach to a more damage-orientated item build. Overall I like to think my guide has a balanced approach to damage and supporting so that it accommodates most play styles. In brief, your idea is fantastic if it's working for you, I found great success with those items for a while. So it's definitely worth it, keep using Zilean how you like!

Thanks for asking,

- Wise Owl

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Hi @ Wise Owl;

Is just wanted to let you know that there's a minor update you need to make on your guide.
In the build with your items there's a note at the part of the 'early items' that says "Tear of the Goddess for that mana. Boots with the runes we take will be available after 10 minutes."
So I am assuming you had in your runes at some point, but right now it isn't in there.
I know it is a very very small think but I just wanted to let you know to improve your guide even more! ^^

As always, big fan of your guide, keep up the amazing work!

~ Kaji ~

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Hi Kaji,

Thanks for letting me know about that, I did indeed have Magical Footwear at one point. I never would have noticed the mistake so thank you for bringing that up!

Thanks again and I'm glad you're keeping an eye on my guide,

- Wise Owl

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7 times W and 3 times E? Interessting tactic.

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Oops, thanks for pointing that out.
- Wise Owl

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Haha, no problem :3

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You might want to consider going Shurelya's Reverie on Zilean. It was great synergy with the entire kit, this also means that you can run into the enemy with that, instead of E. This results in you being able to E the enemy champions and then most likely gonna hit a 100% bomb stun. Morellonomicon is also a good choice, since just exploding a single bomb will trigger the passive, Griveous Wound, and thereby reducing the amount of heal. This helps lock down enemies more easily, and it's easy to hit a 3-5 man Q or even a bomb stun.
These are just items I belive to be useful on the wonderful old man, Zilean. But Shurelya's is probably something you can't go without in most games. @ Wise Owl

You might also want to change Runes, from Inspiration to Precision, and get Pressence of Mind, for the CDR on ult whenever you get a takedown, as well as mana, and Coup De Grace, for more dmg on low HP targets for your bombs to execute them

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Thanks for the comment q1234bohn!

You've got some great ideas and very viable ideas at that. Shurelya's Reverie slipped under my radar, and it sounds like a great item for Zilean's kit. In your own opinion where do you believe it it could fit/replace in my finished build? Personally I'd swap Zeke's Convergence or maybe Spellbinder but I'd like to see what you think. Morellonomicon with its recent changes sounds good as well. Sounds quite damaging, but putting that in my build could take away from movement speed, which is one of the focuses of my build. But magic penetration does sound tempting. But your opinion there too would be great.

Rune-wise, I did like the idea of 5% CDR on item actives, summoner spells and abilities. But executing damage and Ultimate cooldown sounds like a very good deal on the precision side. I might just change the runes around to your request and see how it goes.

Thanks again and I hope you can reply with more great ideas soon!
- Wise Owl

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My personal build is usually the same first 5 items, Spellthief, rushed tear and archangel, Lucidity boots, Eye of the Watchers, Shurelyas, Morellonomicon. These 5 items, in this order, is usually what i go for every game. The 6th item depends on a lot of things, but possible items i use are Twin Shadows, Zhonya, Zeke's, Rylais and in some cases a GA. These items are all used to capitalize on different aspects of Zilean's kit. Twin Shadows and Rylais are used as a kind of gap closer without using your E on yourself, so you can use E on the enemy to land an easy double stun. Zeke's is used to buff someone on your team with your 30 second cooldown ult (reduced by 10% whenever you get a takedown if you play with pressence of mind), and Zhonya's and GA is used to stall for your ult to get up again. Feel free to tell me what you think @ Wise Owl.

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Thanks for replying,

Your build sounds very solid and well prepared for most situations, and it's quite similar to my core build so I would be able to shift some items around easily. Eye of the Watcher's and Archangel's Staff seems to be the items we both share for our core build. So after some consideration I will likely add Shurelyas's Reverie for the active and cheap cost, and since Archangels, Eye of the Watcher's and Shureyla's adds to 40% CDR (Archangels has a +10% CDR passive as well as normal 10% CDR) Morellonomicon or Spellbinder could add some great AP. For boots I like Mobility boots for the extra speed but they can be changed depending on the situation. For the last item then, I'll take your other choices and mine combined, (Zeke's, Twin Shadows, Rylai's, GA) to make a final build.

To clarify, I'm going to update my guide shortly, with the final build (Eye of the Watcher's, Archangel's Staff, Mobility boots, Shurelya's Reverie, Morellonomicon, and situational item.)
Thanks for all your suggestions, I will consider and update my guide, and if you have any more comments or ideas I'll be happy to listen. I think the final result will be a fantastic collaboration of ideas.
- Wise Owl

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