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a Question or a few....

Do Presence of The Master (Masteries) still reduce if i have 40% reduced cool down.
i do not think it say anything about cool down just...
"Reduces the recharge time of your summoners abilities by 15%"
is it the Q, W, E, R it mean?
or do it actually mean the spells? like teleport, flash etc?

so if i have 5% reduced cool down from runes then this masteries (15%) and Frozen Heart (20% less cool down)
do i then have max cool down? (i know max cool down is 40%)

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What happens if i have 6 ninja tabs?
is there a max dodge?
what happens if i have 6 ninja tabs?
What exactly do dodge do?
what can be dodged?
what can not be dodged?

sorry for my bad enlish im dyslexic
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a Question or a few....

Do Presence of The Master (Masteries) still reduce if i have 40% reduced cool down.
i do not think it say anything about cool down just...
"Reduces the recharge time of your summoners abilities by 15%"
is it the Q, W, E, R it mean?
or do it actually mean the spells? like teleport, flash etc?

so if i have 5% reduced cool down from runes then this masteries (15%) and Frozen Heart (20% less cool down)
do i then have max cool down? (i know max cool down is 40%)

Next Question
What happens if i have 6 ninja tabs?
is there a max dodge?
what happens if i have 6 ninja tabs?
What exactly do dodge do?
what can be dodged?
what can not be dodged?

sorry for my bad enlish im dyslexic


Summoner spell cooldowns and champion spell cooldowns are entirely separate. If you have 40% CDR, your Q spell might come off cooldown faster, but your flash and ghost will always be the same cooldown length. Therefore, if you get presence of the master it will reduce the cooldowns of ghost and flash only, not your Q or W or E or R. In this way, there's no hard summoner spell CDR cap because there's only 2 ways to get it: presence of the master and improved summoner spell masteries.
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Yes masteries lower cooldowns of your QWER. There is another mastery that does reduce your summoner spell cooldowns.

Yes, you would have max cooldown from there.

There isn't a max dodge but there's diminishing returns which means it will never be possible to get 100% dodge.
You only get the effect of 1 ninja tabi because it has a UNIQUE passive.
Dodge allows you to occasionally avoid auto-attacks.
Auto-attacks can be dodged, I think attack damage based spells can be dodged, too.
Magic spells cannot be dodged.

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okay thank you for the reply did help a lot
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and to answer your other question, there is no max dodge. however there is a diminishing returns on dodge, so 1 Ninja Tabi + jax + dodge yellows would only equal about 33% dodge chance.

you'd still get the armor and dodge from having multiple ninja tabi's, but its totally not worth it.

as for what dodge is, dodge determines the chance for enemies to miss on auto attacks. any skills/items are not affected by dodge, so its only useful against the likes of master yi, ashe, or miss fortune, for example.

edit: derp bwong beat me by 2 minutes.
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caucheka wrote:

and to answer your other question, there is no max dodge. however there is a diminishing returns on dodge, so 1 Ninja Tabi + jax + dodge yellows would only equal about 33% dodge chance.

you'd still get the armor and dodge from having multiple ninja tabi's, but its totally not worth it.

as for what dodge is, dodge determines the chance for enemies to miss on auto attacks. any skills/items are not affected by dodge, so its only useful against the likes of master yi, ashe, or miss fortune, for example.

edit: derp bwong beat me by 2 minutes.

do towers attacks count as auto attacks?
i mean can it be dodged?
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caucheka wrote:

and to answer your other question, there is no max dodge. however there is a diminishing returns on dodge, so 1 Ninja Tabi + jax + dodge yellows would only equal about 33% dodge chance.

you'd still get the armor and dodge from having multiple ninja tabi's, but its totally not worth it.

as for what dodge is, dodge determines the chance for enemies to miss on auto attacks. any skills/items are not affected by dodge, so its only useful against the likes of master yi, ashe, or miss fortune, for example.

edit: derp bwong beat me by 2 minutes.



I dodged an eve stun(that eve raged hard after she died) So I guess some spells can be dodged.

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No spells can be dodged. The most likely thing that happened is you either somehow had a Banshee's Veil that you forgot about or her stealth just timed out - or perhaps she hit something else before she hit you.
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No spells can be dodged. The most likely thing that happened is you either somehow had a Banshee's Veil that you forgot about or her stealth just timed out - or perhaps she hit something else before she hit you.


She probably used an auto-attack to stun. Anything coming out of her stealth pops a stun.

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