Utility Tree - Good Hands vs. Perseverance

[quote=Jebus McAzn]I know this has been talked to death, but I just want to bring it up one more time. Perseverance gives an additional 4% regeneration to health and mana. Say you have 100 health per 5, an obscene number. That means you gain an additional 4 health per 5, or less than 1 health per second, which is really quite insubstantial compared to the bonuses from, say, Strength of Spirit. In terms of usefulness, Perseverance isn't quite worth it. Good Hands potentially means 5-8 seconds off your death timer, which could be gamechanging. Now let's say you need 3 mastery points in tier 1 Utility. Do you go 3-0, 2-1, 1-2, or 0-3? Since the argument is that Good Hands is better, you'd expect 3-0. Yet HotshotGG goes 2-1 quite often in his videos. The best argument I can have for this is that rank 1 in Perseverance gives you 2% regen while additional ranks only give you another 1% each. Still, is that 2% worth 3.33% reduction on your death timer? Perhaps it is. Opinions?[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]I feel like the 2% regen is more noticeable earlier in the game, however good hands is of course more noticeable later in the game.[/quote]

[quote=Footyballs]For champs like Mundo whose ult works in conjunction with Perseverance I'll go 0-3. For any other champ I'll grab 2-1.[/quote]

[quote=Kirluu]Unless I'm mana dependant I'll go 3-0. If I am mana dependant, I'll go 2-1, and put on some mana regen runes etc.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I don't have the IP for runes and until recently, went 0-3. Now it's usually 3-0 with some points in the other one if I need more points in the utility tree and they won't benefit from any of the other masteries.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]If you'll end up having more the 40 mana regen / 5 seconds, or are a champion with high health regen, then Perseverance is better. Otherwise, Good Hands is 10x better. Seriously, late game, you're dead for 30~60 seconds. 3~6 seconds can mean losing or not losing a turret if your first dead ally can make it back to the lane to defend.[/quote]

[quote=Kirluu]I can imagine that Perseverance would be quite beneficial for Shen. Unless MOBAFire's Database is kinda lolzed out, then Shen has about double the regen of most other champs. In this case, the Perseverance would be more beneficial than elsewhat. Add a Pendant thingy for additional regen, and that should give you some nice laning. (If the Database is correct in Shen having 40 health regen x_x)[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Consider that even if you have 40 HP5, you're still only getting an additional 1.6 HP5 from Perseverance, which is less than 0.3 health per second. Yaaaaay...[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]Good hands is better, though for some reason I still get the regen, maybe cause I don't plan on dying. but I should really stick to good hands, habit :/[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Jebus: Perseverance is perfectly fine at that level. Remember, this is just a small FIRST-TIER mastery. Good Hands only cuts off about 1~6 seconds throughout the game too. Small numbers aren't such a big deal, and it's not that bad. It really depends on preferences.[/quote]