No, the slows do not stack. I personally despise Frozen Mallet because for all that money you spend you get a lot of health, good slow on-hit, and a pitiful +20 attack damage. Honestly, if I want to slow somebody that bad, I will just go get red buuf and spend my money on much better items.
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By the way, in case you don't know, skills like Ezreal's Mystic Shot that proc on-hit effects do apply Frozen Mallet but do NOT apply Rylai's Crystal Scepter, even though it's a spell.
I can understand if you're asking the question out of concern for, say, a chain slow applied by Q+W.
I can understand if you're asking the question out of concern for, say, a chain slow applied by Q+W.
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Jebus McAzn wrote:
By the way, in case you don't know, skills like Ezreal's Mystic Shot that proc on-hit effects do apply Frozen Mallet but do NOT apply Rylai's Crystal Scepter, even though it's a spell.
I can understand if you're asking the question out of concern for, say, a chain slow applied by Q+W.
Ahhh i see!
Jebus McAzn wrote:
By the way, in case you don't know, skills like Ezreal's Mystic Shot that proc on-hit effects do apply Frozen Mallet but do NOT apply Rylai's Crystal Scepter, even though it's a spell.
I can understand if you're asking the question out of concern for, say, a chain slow applied by Q+W.
Well i would rather consider MS as an Ability but on the other hand.. it costs mana hmmm...
Anyway :P (just trolling here a bitsy) Slows do stack but...
Well credit here for RobertMeta from LeagueCraft coz i didnt have time to explain it myself :P
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All slows stack with each other, but Rylai will not stack with itself.
Item slows do not stack with each other (they are a special slow type). This includes Phage, Trinity Force, Frozen Mallet, and Rylai's Scepter. Warden's Mail and Randuin's Omen do stack with other item slows (but again not with themselves from the same person).
Most slows will stack if two different people use them (for example double Exhaust) but item slows are an exception, they are limited to the biggest single item slow, from any player.
Another bit of confusing data is that an item like Frozen Mallet does different amount of slowing on different champs, 30% on ranged champs, 40% of melee champs.
(Thanks to Civil Enemy for below data)
Lizard buff (lvl 18) and frozen mallet, you should have 55% slowing, i got:
370->193=48% slow
380->195=49% slow
325->183=44% slow
so, the slower they get, the less slowed they will become.
Singed, and tried what happened if i used his mega adhesive (75 % slow) and frozen mallet (40% slow)
that should be 85% slowing.
that came out:
463->145=69% slow
380->138=64% slow
325->134=59% slow
finally, i tested with all three, and 25% + 40% + 75% slowing should be around 89% slowing
i came up with:
463->136=71% slow
370->130=65% slow
380->131=66% slow
(Thanks to Fury for the below data)
Slows start to suffer diminishing returns at 220. The DR cuts the slow by 50%. No harsher DR was found before the 130 point but it may exist if you manage to bring them even lower.
I used exhaust as my primary slow for the following tests.
A 350 movespeed target was brought to 215. A 38.5% slow. So diminishing returns kick in before 215.
A 370 movespeed target was brought to 222. A full 40% slow. So diminishing returns kick in after 222.
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No, the slows do not stack. I personally despise Frozen Mallet because for all that money you spend you get a lot of health, good slow on-hit, and a pitiful +20 attack damage. Honestly, if I want to slow somebody that bad, I will just go get red buuf and spend my money on much better items.
Id get a frozen mallet on ezreal over rylais any day. on that note, id also probably get a frozen mallet on ALL long range dps or squishy melee heroes. *being cait, tristana, renekton, yi etc.*, and a triforce on any somewhat hybrid mid range dps *ezreal, irelia, nidalee*
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Nice info DEWO!
I knew that slows had some kind of diminishing returns, but I didn't know how it worked.
I knew that slows had some kind of diminishing returns, but I didn't know how it worked.
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Well that depends on how you play EZ. A mallet on him while you go for AP Ez is kida weak. I wouldnt go for Rylai at all even on AP build too, since His flux and ulti is AoE so slow is ****py, Q (even with LB proc which deals physical damage) doesnt proc rylai. So you can only count on the shift which not always could be counted on :P randomisation FTW.
So if you play AD, it might be valid to go for mallet, if you play AP dont take it either then. If you play Hybrid EZ - dont play at all :PPPP (trolololol)
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Well that depends on how you play EZ. A mallet on him while you go for AP Ez is kida weak. I wouldnt go for Rylai at all even on AP build too, since His flux and ulti is AoE so slow is ****py, Q (even with LB proc which deals physical damage) doesnt proc rylai. So you can only count on the shift which not always could be counted on :P randomisation FTW.
So if you play AD, it might be valid to go for mallet, if you play AP dont take it either then. If you play Hybrid EZ - dont play at all :PPPP (trolololol)
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