AS Marks?

[quote=AnIh]AS runes are for these junglers : red + quint -> udyr (arp or other can be better depend of your path and skill build but AS are good for all AND for lategame) blue + yellow > yi (or quint too , dont remember) full as -> irelia / ww[/quote]

[quote=ShadowReign757]I always found them to be unnecessary on WW, but I usually end up jungling slow anyways, so I'm probably wrong.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=AnIh] AS runes are for these junglers : red + quint -> udyr (arp or other can be better depend of your path and skill build but AS are good for all AND for lategame) blue + yellow > yi (or quint too , dont remember) full as -> irelia / ww [/quote] ArPen is much more useful for Udyr late-game than AS is.[/quote]

[quote=AnIh]i didnt know arp give more phoenix and madred dmg .[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]With a typical Udyr that goes Triforce+Tiger Stance, ArP is a bit more useful. Still, I'd go AS runes for the early game jungling speed.[/quote]

[quote=AnIh][quote=Jebus McAzn] typical Udyr that goes Triforce+Tiger Stance [/quote] Something is wrong there .[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Trojan995] I think that Xin Zhao and Irelia [i]need[/i] pure AS marks to jungle, however.[/quote] Those who get more survivability with AS quints + marks should probably use them. But not all.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Searz]The thing I was saying was that at least 5-10ArP is optimal on a jungler like Udyr. Using all 9 ArP marks (15ArP) is wasteful since more ArP is wasted against some monsters.[/quote] I couldnt find the post where Searz compared jungle times, but I remember a mix of ArPen/AS was faster.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Searz] [quote=Trojan995] I think that Xin Zhao and Irelia [i]need[/i] pure AS marks to jungle, however.[/quote] Those who get more survivability with AS quints + marks should probably use them. But not all. [/quote] Yeah, the reason these 2 get AS is because they heal based on attacks, not damage.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Jebus McAzn] With a typical Udyr that goes Triforce+Tiger Stance, ArP is a bit more useful. Still, I'd go AS runes for the early game jungling speed.[/quote] The thing is that you get faster by a second or 2 when you jungle Udyr with 10ArP instead of 10%AS. The difference is hardly noticeable, but ArP is more useful later on anyway so I'd rather grab that.[/quote]