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Malz/Nunu changes very soon!! and some other...

Creator: JunSupport June 16, 2011 1:17pm
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So did I miss something about Malz? I mean I rarely see him and isn't it still Kass>Malz? He has two skillshots, but I guess the biggest problem is his E and R? Since they do an ungodly amount of damage?

In which one item will save you from malz every time: Quick sliver sash.
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malz is op i dont know how can you think he is not , killing anybody in w -> r is ******ed

and dont tell me qss , wasting 1440 gold for each team member only to counter ONE guy is dumb as hell , it should be reduced by mercury thats all
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AnIh wrote:

malz is op i dont know how can you think he is not , killing anybody in w -> r is ******ed

and dont tell me qss , wasting 1440 gold for each team member only to counter ONE guy is dumb as hell , it should be reduced by mercury thats all


Believe me - I've played Malz -

His mana costs are ridiculously high, you need 240 mana to pull off just W > R
His E is a DoT - NOT instant damage, like, say, Vlad's Q
He gets countered by a single item
Only a fool stands in his W without his R up
Moving out of his Q is stupidly easy
W > R doesn't kill everything. You need to have at least your E too, which costs even more mana (360 at rank 5 with rank 1 W and R)

AnIh, QSS can just replace your usual Banshee's Veil, it COMPLETELY counters Malz, he can't kill anything without his R. Spending 1440 gold to make a champion completely useless is good enough reason to buy it. In most games some champions should be buying this anyway...
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malz dont need his r to kill somebody , using q w e pull enought dmg r is just a joker 'i can kill anybody in 2 spells'
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Malz really isn't as OP as ppl say.. He is very vulnerable when using ult and he only really shines at 1v1 when his ult is up.
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AnIh wrote:

malz dont need his r to kill somebody , using q w e pull enought dmg r is just a joker 'i can kill anybody in 2 spells'


It really doesn't.

If you're like 10/0 fed, maybe. You'd have to be an idiot to walk into his Q and his W is just "don't stand here", his E is his only real source of damage, and it's a DoT.

He can't kill people without his ultimate unless there's been a lot of previous attrition.
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First...

@AnIh:

Quicksilver Sash IS an effective and smart way to counter Malzahar's Nether Grasp

I do it all the time when I see Vlad/Morde/Malzahar, and often people stack Ignites on me as he ults, making it quite a handy tool mid-game before I trade it in for a stronger Magic Resist.

Second...

@Searz (and everyone else):

The problem with Malzahar is his Null Zone.
Late-game, when combined with high ELO coordinated CC, the void puddle will TEAR through your health. Factor in Nether Grasp and the damage of the allied CC, and it guarantees a kill 99% of the time.

That is why Malzahar is broken at the moment.
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Reduce the damage by 1% of total health. Problem solved.
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I don't think Vayne needs a nerf :/
She's fine the way she is. I like the way she works. She the main counter for what i notice to be the meta, "tanky dps".
Vayne ignores the fact that they have high HP and resistance, making them like normal champs. She's squishy enough where you can kill her easily enough. If vayne gets nerfed. nothing will stop the new champs who are joining us soon. Also if you didn't know, they're all going to be tanky... like wtf
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Seems kinda silly to waste all your CC to kill that one person in the null zone. Although if they have a QSS then it makes since. Though Searz if they do that then well....anyone who doesn't pick up a QSS is still screwed if he E W R them.

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