Your lack of AP confuses me...

[quote=tinolas][quote=Jebus McAzn] Alright, let's get some things straight. Let's say you manage to build AP. You're squishy as hell unless you can afford that ideal earlier build of Hourglass, Banshee's, Abyssal Scepter, etc - maybe AA, RoA, Deathcap for AP. Some combination of all those items which average around 2.9k gold in cost. You can heal for a ton. Maybe you've managed to get a good amount of CDR, so you aren't completely useless without CD and you can deal some okay damage with Starfall. Buuuuutttt... You've also spent roughly 15k gold on an item build that isn't even optimal for you. Someone once said that the strength behind Soraka is that you can either focus her and get killed by her carry or NOT focus her and fail at killing their invincible carry while their AP also nukes you down. This is only relevant if Soraka does NOT die INSTANTLY to any form of initiation, harass, AP burst, etc. With an AP build, she WILL DIE more or less instantly. With a tanky support build, she will NOT, and will make her carries that much stronger in fights. Why bother with a stronger heal when your team will barely be taking damage in the first place? Soraka's presence is huge in a team fight - ignore her and you lose, don't ignore her and you lose (assuming a well-farmed carry). Aura Soraka can afford to dish out hundreds of gold on wards during early-mid game, buy GP10 items that will actually become useful and not gimp her out, and let her give ALL THE FARM to whatever carry she's laning with. She doesn't NEED that much AP. Maybe a Rabadon's, if you're lucky. But the fact is, Soraka can thrive on a 6k budget of gold, easily achieved with just GP10 items and the assists she gets. [/quote] ^This.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]you people have NO IMAGINATION![/quote]

[quote=Ya1232][url=http://forum.leaguecraft.com/index.php?/topic/10480-ap-soraka-vs-buff-soraka/]Here is a thread just like this on a respected LoL site.[/url] [url=http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=17763]Another one[/url] [url=http://www.solomid.net/forums/index.php?/topic/834-ap-soraka-anyone/]From a very good group of people that also thought of the same thing.[/url] 3 sites, all asking and trying the same thing and not having person attacks and saying you are wrong it wont work without trying it. This site is just a bandwagon and if the "Top players" are not doing it, then its wrong mentality HAS to stop. Edit: Thank you for proving my last point as I was actually typing this out.[/quote]

[quote=tinolas]Its pretty funny to see guides from over a year ago. +Rep for that ^^ Yeah, you're saying that everybody should find their own way of playing. Did you even consider my build? All AP per Level runes + Deathcap is the best for Soraka. Period. I'm not going to post all my reasonings again. Did you get what I'm trying to explain? Pls tell me. PS: Yeah, everything what 'top players' do is suspicious. I think you're trying to find to be different no matter what. No offense.[/quote]

[quote=Ya1232]I did consider your build, I even ran that build and did just fine. ALL AP nothing else. I also have built the no AP tanky ish Soraka and did just fine with that. Hell I won a game 1-0-8 in a 3s with just Doran's shield. Whats the point you are asking there in your head? There is no right answer, you play how your play style fits. Now for on topic since you keep pulling that away, it was about throwing in a little bit of AP and seeing what happens. The last time I checked this was Theory crafting Topic, meaning that ideas about things should be brought up here. So that is what happened, but here you are just yelling out nope your wrong your stupid you dont pay attention your an idiot!! You just said that an ALL AP build with runes and deathcap is the best for Soraka, yet you were just saying that AP for her was bad. Can we pick one and go with it?[/quote]

[quote=tinolas]What the heck is up with people not building AP on Soraka? That was the question. I tried to answer that, didn't I? Where did I say AP was bad on her, I'm sure I talked about AP Soraka being bad not AP on Soraka! Do you see the difference?[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=tinolas] I talked about AP Soraka being bad not AP on Soraka! [/quote] This is somewhat oxymoronic... EDIT: Either you would build AP on her or not....the actual builds should be irrelevant... [quote=The_Nameless_Bard] With a predominantly AP build I can heal over 1100 damage with wish and nearly 800 damage with Astral Blessing. [color=#00ff00]I'm not saying she needs it to be useful[/color], I'm just wondering why no one seems to care about the immense healing power of an AP Soraka. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=tinolas]No it's not. AP Soraka is a Soraka who focuses on AP. That's bad imo. But if you get some AP on Support Soraka it's not bad. AP on Soraka is fine, AP Soraka isn't. Maybe I got you wrong -.-[/quote]

[quote=Ya1232][quote=tinolas] Anyways people saying everybody needs to find his own way of playing are right to some extent. It's really useful if you go out there and go figure things out yourself. But don't try to go against the mainstream just because you want to go against it. If it's actually better, go ahead and do it, but if it's just inferior why even consider it. [color=#00ffff]It's not like AP Soraka can be better in some situations, Support Soraka is just better through the roof.[/color] [/quote] That is where you said that Support is better and AP is bad on her. Then, like I just got done saying, you argued that some AP on is good all the time. You keep flip flopping. Here is where you agree or disagree and you can either keep arguing, I dont mind Im free tonight, or leave it there. Full AP Soraka heals are OP, why dont people add some AP into all her builds. Not saying its needed, but some sort of AP there only makes her stronger. Note: This was the original thought and comment.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=tinolas] No it's not. AP Soraka is a Soraka who focuses on AP. That's bad imo. But if you get some AP on Support Soraka it's not bad. AP on Soraka is fine, AP Soraka isn't. [/quote] That's where you're confusing the topic...I play AP Soraka....but I wasn't asking why no one else does (which by the way plenty of people DO). I was asking why some people build NO AP AT ALL. EDIT: Make sure you get what a person is saying before you start to be rude to them, please?[/quote]