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Added a non gp10 build related to MTaurs findings. Keep in mind you will be sub CDR cap without reverie so will need to upgrade glacial to frozen heart if you care about the last 5%.
The final build was like what you have posted as Build 3 right now, except I took
I definitely needed the MP5 runes to make this work, but you get the holy trinity of HP5 synergies in exchange. Also, it's pointless to upgrade to
EDIT: Oh, right. You need 9/0/21 to get 9% more CDR as it is (you could get another 1% from runes too if you really cared). Taking
I tried a test run. Seemed to do ok for mana with Glyphs of Clarity (mp5/level) and no Philosopher's. I took
Anyway, it's about as tanky as it gets either way.
Did you take a HoG or skip that as well?
Anyway, it's about as tanky as it gets either way.
As for the second question, I think you mean "if THEIR team has no AD carry, do you still get frozen heart?". The answer is no, you don't. Keep in mind that frozen heart is only included in a late dragging on game. Most of the time you stop at glacial shroud. You need that CDR, and we unfortunately have very few options. If we switch to CDR boots, we lose the tenacity so need to get that tenacity pendant. But we still need to get shurelya's so now we have a build with 2 philo stones... probably not the best way to go. So we stop at glacial to save cash and move on to other things.
Leona are full tank, but need kill, change ghost for ingnite its best.
That's not going to happen, but thanks for the comment.
I have changed the top build summaries for those that don't bother to read the actual guide. Changed to CV as the first has ghost. Ideally you don't take CV, but somebody has to and if your support won't step up, you need to.
Interesting thought about
I honestly might just try your build as-is with
EDIT: Never mind, I see you take both