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--- also just to let you know where this is coming from, i main zilean from lvl 1 to lvl 30, and play ranked with him now.
With that being said, it is nice to have that archangel's staff earlier in some games.. It really just depends on the game
I'm actually planning a large update to my guide sometime soon.. but I'm trying to get back into the swing of college currently, so it may be a week or two. Keep checking for updates because I have a lot of very useful information to add!
Thank you :D
I think it's awesome that this is one of your favorite guides! And to be up there with Reginald is pretty nice too!
I am not the user who posts guides or commenting much, but this one worked so great, from the first game!
I always searched for a good supporter. I tried nearly everyone at least Zilean. I tried at first the highrated guides, but they didn't worked greater, than other supporters. This guide showed me, how special and great Zilean is. Next to the epic Corki Guide from Reginald is this my favourite. I hope you still work on it!
I will test Zilean on ranked soon, you can play 3 really great roles with him and your builds and tactics are perfect for them! :)
Mowen, this just isn't true. If you know how to not over-extend, you will not instadie. You have flash and a double time warp. This build even builds CDR as one of its firsts, giving you more spamming ablility with your slows, speeds, and ult. You reallly should be able to survive with this one if you have any sense.
You'll have 15% cooldown reduction at level one. If your team is good, especially if you tell them your build plans, they will give you blue (yes, over the AP carry). When you build Soul Shroud as your 3rd item, you'll 25% cdr. If you need more and you don't have blue, take an
Late? As the second item.. Order: Boots, RoA, TOME = cdr.
I think you misunderstood that section. I did not say that you should ever lane with the AP carry (not good lane comp), and I didn't say you'd give the AP carry the farm. I said, if you have another AP carry (on your team!) you won't need to farm as hard for magic dps (which, yes, Zilean needs most of the time, believe it or not..) :P
Fair enough, but it does do damage, and if you use the bush correctly, you shouldnt draw more than one caster minion's attacks.
Will do :)
I probably should put more emphasis on it, I'll just link to a warding guide and put how it's imperative to ward in the description.
Build 1 - You are going to instadie (yes, before you can cast your ult on yourself) if anyone stuns you in a teamfight / an anticarry jumps on you. This build has 0 survivability and 0 tenacity.
Build 2 - You don't get CDR until late, and CDR is basically the best stat for Zilean because it scales exponentially with his W (you can have your ult up in 30 secs with max CDR, and your ult being up takes priority over AP) and if you're not the ap carry you're going to have to give blue to the ap carry. Replace Sorc shoes with CDR Boots
Build 3 - Once again, no CDR until late. Replace Sorc Shoes with CDR boots.
Overall your builds are all very squishy and have no tenacity. If the team has any brains at all they're going to see this and focus you down before you can ult anyone. I would suggest incorporating more "survival ap" items such as Zhonya's or Abyssal Scepter. ROA is good though.
I would never get Sorc shoes over CDR Boots. Zilean is support, a support that needs AP, but not magic pen. His ult is the tihng you've got to focus on, and it doesn't need magic pen. The CDR is SO much more valuable to your usefulness in the game because it lets you get your ult up way faster through a lower cd W and lower cd R. If you're having trouble being cc'd before you can ult, get merc treads then.
You've got the gp5 situation kind've mixed up. It's not as vital for the ap carry to have farm as it is for the ad carry. The ap carry should never lane with you if they can help it, because they get most of their damage through their spells and therefore levels. AD carries get it through items. So make sure if the ad carry is laning with you to let them have farm and get the gp5 items.
I wouldn't auto attack champs when you're trying to zone them in lane because it's not going to do much, and draw creep aggro.
Put Will of the Ancients in as a situational item.
Since you're saying this is for ranked games, you need to put more emphasis on warding. I only see a small note about it, people don't realize how vital it is, and how vital it is that YOU do the warding.