Release Notes v1.0.0.124

[quote=Xenasis][quote=NicknameMy] Well, as Taric, you must farm now to build tanky. Because of that, all 0 farm supports will get nerfed, until you have to farm. [/quote] Supports will be useless if that happens... At the moment the only viable supports are Janna, Alistar and maybe Sona.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]If they going for Orianna's supportive powers, why nerf AP ratio on shield from 6 to 4? :P[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Also; Soraka mid appears to be a viable option now due to the spammability of Soraka's Q... I think I'd compare the new Soraka (VERY LOOSELY) to Nidalee in the sense that I'm building her for war... But she has a heal which helps for laning phase a bit and will be useful later, but it doesn't seem to be the focus at all. Soraka is also a good mid because of the AP mid meta and her passive giving 16 MR. Junglers gank her, and her heal gives her a chunk of armor to live through it.[/quote]

[quote=Sacull_Kinslayer][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] [quote=Sacull_Kinslayer] It is funny. They have used the word "sustain" as their basis for nerfs for some time now but they haven't touched one of the nuttiest sustain heroes. Alistar. AoE heal plus silly range on his headbutt and crazy passive. I see solo lane Alistars becoming popular again. Most of the patch I am ok with. The healer + ranged AD bot has become very annoying. I still think they should have reduced the Gp10 bonus to only able to get 1 Gp10 item on a hero period. I am happy about Kayle getting some help again. I think they need to do something about her passive though. It is still weak imo. I didn't expect them to hurt Nid's heal so badly though. Wow. [/quote] Actually they did nerf Alistar's AoE heal HARD a few patches ago L2READ patch notes bro... [/quote] I know they nerfed it. I read those patch notes. He is still a ridiculously strong hero with huge sustain. Especially if he builds a little AP on top of his support tankiness.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]^ This is still true. Philo Stone -> Phage. 2-3 Doran's rings -> Phage. Those sequences are sorta not nerfable for the cow, lol.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Yeah Duff, i've always loved Soraka mid (I lol everytime I see it in a bot game) because she has some pretty nice anti mage tools to work with. To bad her heal doesn't increase MR. That would be extremely useful.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Xenasis: You're only half right. Try thinking all the way through instead of stopping half way. Supports who only get 0 CS will be useless. But the reworked supports who farm up will be more useful then ever. If not, Riot will make it so they are. Riot will make it work, and any thought that they won't is utter denial. :) @Nighthawk: Soraka passively increases MR. [[Consecration]] Personally, I think they need to give it a more active effect like. [i]"Increase surrounding allies' magic resist by 12. When Soraka casts an ability on an ally (including herself), their magic resist is further increased by 12 for 5 seconds. This effect stacks up to 3 times."[/i] This way, even [[Wish]] would have more combat properties. :)[/quote]

[quote=Shaynythyryas][quote=JunSupport] Supports who only get 0 CS will be useless. But the reworked supports who farm up will be more useful then ever. If not, Riot will make it so they are. Riot will make it work, and any thought that they won't is utter denial. :) [/quote] I wonder how the meta will turn to be... there will still be the Janna + AD or Alistar + AD who steal 0 CS. (and I don't see how they could be Alistar less support and more agressive, cause he's the perma-nerfed for being too agressive) Some say that Roaming may be the new alternative ; it could work for Taric, it already works for Janna and Alistar (but these two have no problem with current changes), but I don't see it working with Soraka or Sona.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]waaah why cant supports just shut up and babysit my ass and then spend what little gold they get on warding the whole entire map.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=caucheka] waaah why cant supports just shut up and babysit my ass and then spend what little gold they get on warding the whole entire map. [/quote] Because [[Taric]] learned about HAMMER DIPLOMACY! [[Poppy]] strikes again![/quote]