No trinity force? And irelia doesn't scale very well with ap.

worst guide evarr. already comments explaining why

OK I understand that u want a comment nore on the cost efficent part^^ Soooo ill make another, shorter(!!!) comment about it:
I dono how u caculate the cost of the stats, and u should explanin how u do it in the guide!! The formula I know, is that u take the basic items of a stat( like cloth armor and chain vest) Add them together, then devide by the total stats they bring. With this formula U get that 1 health=2.6 Gold, like u worte. However, Critical strike for exmaple is worth 47G for 1%, and not 50 like u worte in the guide.

The items chapter, there u write how much cost efficent an item is, only include 5 items...... (...........)
Also, it makes no sense.(if u read this in my preveious commentjust skip this part lol :D) costs 475, and 10 Damage is worth 415 Gold. So u pay 60 g for 3 life steal and 100 HP, and that is worth 372, going with ur logic. So how the **** am I saving 790 Gold when I buy this?!?! LOL this just makes no sense m8 sry^^

Anyway, the build is bad imo... If u would change to trinity instead of Lich it will be a bit better, but then it wont be cost efficent. Cause u are wasting the trinity's passive, cause u get 100% slow from the Mallet.
Again, I hope i have been helpful :)
I was intrested about this guide cause I also like to get cost efficent items. But honestly I was very disapointed :(

edit: Oh so u just canculated the cost of the stats by the cheapest basic item? Well it's another a bit less accurate way to do itm sry thats my bad. But lol everything still doesnt make any sense :D Look into the items chapter and try to fix it...

This is a horrible build. Really bad. But, I would like to tell you whats wrong with it exactly, so u can learn from it, and hopefuly fix it/archive it and make a new ad better one

-First of all, cost efficiency isn't everything. Yea, its great to get items that are cost efficient, but u also got to consider that some items are just better on a champ, and some items are bad for him. Sux on an AD champion. I don't care how much cost efficient it is, it sux. No arguments. However, is perfect for her. And also, it's quite cost efficient. For 300 gold u get all more of all the AD AP etc, and a better sheen procs. Only the stats, without considering the buffed Sheen passive, is already worth much more than 300.

-U should explain how the hell u got to those numbers of how each stat is worth. People can look at it and go"WTF is he talking about, is he just makin it up??" I personally know that this is how the stats really cost cause I know the formula to calculate the cost of stats, saw it in a guide from solomid.net a while ago. But others dont. Hell, for all I know u might have went to that guide and coopid it without giving credit. Plz expalin how u got to these numbers.

- This one is the biggest mistake in this guide! The comparison u did between Trinity Force and lich Bane, Frozen Mallet and Phantom dancer is absolutely wrong and makes no sense. What u say is basically "hey, Trinity Force sux so much, If u get these three items instead u will be much stronger and much more tankier!!" Dude COME ON. U cant be for real. Trinity is 1 item, and costs 4000. Lich bane+Frozen Malet+Phantom dancer Burns 3 item slots, and it costs almost 10000 Gold...

-The picture that shows the ward placement to bot and top lane is wrong. Placing the wards in the bush is bad, because u get really small vision. U should put it more in the center of the river, and a bit lower for top/higher for bot than the bush. This was. u have a much better vision, seeing ganks from far away, and covering both entrances to the lane. The only reason to put the ward there, is if u also put 1 in the other bush to get perfect vision for ganks, but u didn't put that pic there...

-I didnt understand the items chapter. u wrote "he number is how much gold you are saving, by buying this item." Really? Im saving 790 G when buying [icion=doran's blade size=24]?? 10 AD is worth 415 G. Dont tell me now that 3 life steal and 100 HP, are worth about 800 G. Cause they are not. maybe 400.

-"Just try push your lane" WORST TIP EVER. OK i cant believe that i gotta explain such a basic thing, but its good that u will know this. Never push ur lane, unless u see the enemy jungler on the other side of the map or something. Or if u already warded all around the lane. U get ganked. U need to burn flash, and maybe still die due to CC and red buff. Jungler walks around, ganks again and u die without flash. Just dont push. Also, for irelia, who loses the lane at early lvls to many champions, I actually think she should last hit under tower cause of that. She got Q to super easily farm under tower.

-Quints aren't really good... Consider Arp, Health regen, Flat HP, movement speed.

-OK this one is a general tip for guide making. People dont really appreciate guides that have only have a build and no guide for the champion. The reason ,is that any1 can make a build. Its easy. Even if this build is special(and bad...), it still couldnt have taken more than few hours to get it done. The guide is the important thing. It's qulity is what makes people love a build.(altough the build is ofcourse important too). I know u have a chapter about gameplay, but its short and not informative at all. U should explain ur masteries, Runes, spells, skill order, everything. Explain about irelia, and make an in depth gameplay chapter, including teamfights, farming,1v1, and such.


OK, ur build and guide is definitely not good. I hope I helped u understand why, and I hope u can take my advices and make ur build better. I also want to emphasize that I'm not here to say "OMG man this bliws u suck", I'm here cause I want to help u improve it. Right now as I said, It's not good, and the comments and votes so far show it. My suggestion, is that u archive this guide, and maje a new and improved one. Consider everything me and the other guys who commented here said, and try to make ur next guide much more so it actually makes sense, and make it more in depth. Also try to learn some nice formatting to make it look better, lots of vets on this site have templates or guides on how to make the guide look better.
The most important thing u want to remember when making a new guide/fixing this one, is that cost efficiency is important, however an item's synergy with the champion is more important. U can't just go like "hey, Lich bane is a cost effiecnt item, lets buy it, although its totaly **** on Irelia".
Good luck :) U got a lot of work to do^^

Lol, everyone hates me. >.<

Tbh, the guide was supposed to be about the cost effiencies, i just added my (fail) Irelia guide at the bottom, to come up to 5000 letters.

SingerOfTheFall, you are totally right, i just want to change Trinity Force, btw, i have a 14 win streak with this build, also the 25% chance to slow is ****, the slow from equilibrium strike is good but, cooldown long, like u can chase some one slow them, then they get away, even if u ult, they manage to survive, with this build, mid game - i just dominate, they cant get away with that constant slow, also lich bane is probably a bad idea, i just hate that sheen turns to lich bane, and converts to +ap :(

Well thanks for the constructive feedback.

Please can anyone comment on the cost effiency part (The main part :D)

This is just not really a very good guide for a tanky AD because she doesn't do enough damage, and I'm sorry to say this, but Lichbane on a non AP champ build is a waste.

This is just not really a very good guide for a tanky AD because she doesn't do enough damage, and I'm sorry to say this, but Lichbane on a non AP champ build is a waste.

Lich Bane's proc will deal almost no damage.

Madred's Bloodrazor or Wit's End make better attack speed choices on off-tanks, Phantom Dancer is ****.

You are saying that Frozen Mallet+ Lich Bane+ Phantom Dancer are better then Trinity Force?
Oh come on.
Trinity Force:
30AS
30AD
30AP
15% crit
250hp
250mana
12% movement speed.

Frozen Mallet+ Lich Bane+ Phantom Dancer:
20AD
700hp
30 magic resist
350 mana
80AP
55AS
22 movement speed
30 crit strike.

Now the reasons why I don't think it's a good choice.
First of all, Lich bane's passive works with AP. You will only have 80 of it, meaning you will get 80 damage per proc.
Trinity passive works with AD, which you will have much more (even without any items), and the proc percentage is 150% resulting in a much better damage output.
Also, Irelia scales quite badly with AP (50% on her E and 50% on her R).
Attack damage scaling (100% on Q and 60% on R) is much better, so i see no reasons to build her AP.

A slow from every hit that you get from Frozen Mallet is good. However, you haev a built-in slow in your E, and a distance-closer in your Q. The 25% slow chance on trinity is enough to slow the enemy before the effect of Equilibrium Strike ends.

Also note that
a) Trinity force takes just one slot in inventory, while your 3-item combo takes three.
b) Trinity Force costs 4070, while the three of your items cost a total of 9565 gold.

The only real benefits from these items are 15% bonus critical strike, 25% AS, and a lot of extra HP (you don't really need that extra mana, so i don't count that). However, you can get these extra stats much cheaper if you add something to your [trinity force. For example, Trinity Force + Cloak and Dagger + Giant's Belt will give about the same AS, crit and HP stats, but will cost just 6630 in total, instead of 9565. And even if you add another Zeal to compensate the difference in movement speed, you will pay just 7825 in total, while getting even more crits and attack speed.

Irelia without Trinity? Oh C'mon!