Let's get something straight here.

[quote=PFP]If you use Phantom Dancer on any champion/build you aren't a good player.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]Erm.. please elaborate. Think about it, passive movement speed on top of boots and it's not passive? Not too bad of an item, if you ask me.[/quote]

[quote=PFP]Extremely expensive item (3395 gold). Last Whisperer (1965 gold) is a much better item and gives you what you need on a carry. Nearly the same attack speed boost, extra damage, and ArP. ArP > AD > AS. Very unreliable (chance of obtaining) item due to it's cost. It's a bad item overall, the dodge chance and crit chance are negligible. For an item of that price I would much rather buy a Youmuu's Ghostblade (2687 gold), which is a heck of an item that can give you much more for your money with a MUCH better item core. Phantom Dancer core = Zeal (bad) small attack speed, crit, and movement speed increase. TERRIBLE! Youmuu's Ghostblade core = Brutalizer (good) attack damage, ArP, CDR. AWESOME! Here's a look at the numbers. Using the aforementioned formula, ArP > AD > AS, you should be able to easily see how the latter item is greater than the former. Phantom Dancer: +45% Attack Speed +30% Critical Strike +20% Dodge +15% Movement Speed Youmuu's Ghostblade: +30 Attack Damage +15% Critical Strike Chance +20 Armor Penetration. 15% Cooldown Reduction Active - Gives 20% movement speed and +50% attack speed for 4 seconds. If you want more damage output and crits then invest in a Last Whisperer and/or a Youmuu's Ghostblade for a melee OR ranged carry. More reliable, stronger output, resulting in you carrying harder. ALSO: Tell me if you've seen a good high elo carry (bigfatjiji) ever buy a phantom dancer (WCG?). I don't think so.[/quote]

[quote=Dirty Goolash]Even on Trynd? =O[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]bigfatjiji's Ashe build is pretty cool haha, I'll give you that. If only they had a cheaper alternative for more movement speed. If you're already fed enough to get a PD then I wouldn't say it's the worst of items. Definately not as bad as Warmog's. P.S. Goolash, Youmuu's is a pretty good item in place of the PD if you remember the active. I guess it's still personal preference for whatever.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]TBH i am a big fan on PD. It is costy as hell (i nearly always get stuck at completing it, coz the last part costs 900 (which should be somehow balanced) but... It gives all i want on a physical carry. Most of all it is a good AS WITH CRIT. And it is all passive. Dodge is a realy nice thing especialy if you play 21/9/0 build. You dont need to think to activate a yoyo or look at any cooldown. Tbh i buy PD and i am done on AS and base crit for most physicals. Yoyo is cheaper and gives alot of diferent usefull stats but tbh it gives not that much of em. I cant see a Trynd/Yi/Gang/TF without it tbh... Its a good item overall but the recepie is too costy in my eyes.[/quote]

[quote=aethidd]For me it's Berserker Greaves, I just don't see how the attack speed can be worth using in the boots slot instead of swiftness/mercury threads. That's just me I guess, I'm weird.[/quote]

[quote=Arragoth]Depends on the champ and the game being played.[/quote]

[quote=PFP]Okay well Phantom Dancer works on Tyrandamere sure, but that's only if tyrandamere is actually working that game and isn't getting shut down like he should. PD's work if you get 2 of them. Only having one phantom is bad. If you'replaying AD TF with a Phantom that's another bad choice, and if you're playing AD Yi with Phantom the other team must suck, just like they must suck if you're doing well with Tyran.[/quote]

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]I spy some raging QQ. I take it that you have been getting worked over by someone that is stacking these? Personally, I think its an overrated item. Its got nice stats, and if you are looking for an avoidance type build. Its kind of a luxery(SP) item too. Kinda like Warmog's. It can make a build if you rush it. Hmmmmmm.... I just had an idea... Ty PFP[/quote]