Optimal Way to Build AD?

[quote=Blaque]In my low elo games, I'm rarely targeted and teams rarely build armor. What I'm sure of is : Bezerker's Greaves Infinity Edge Zeal Now for more damage it's optimal to build which of these and in what order: Phantom Dancer Blood Thirster Last Whisper (At what amount of armor) ? Please make an attempt to show reasoning behind choices. Thank you.[/quote]

[quote=gwadzila]Well, you pretty much got the order right. Zerker's, IE, PD, BT, Last Whisper, then a Banshee's or something else for defence. Maybe you could swap the Last Whisper and Banshee's if you're getting screwed over a lot. Oh and also, Searz has some graphs about arpen and such, you should check those out for the usefulness of Last Whisper. I think it's like, if more than 2 people have over 100 armor, it's worth it. However, if they aren't building enough armor for Last Whisper to be worth it, you could grab Stark's/Black Cleaver/Madred's/Frozen Mallet (if you aren't Ashe)/ or even another PD/BT.[/quote]

[quote=Blaque]Couple questions: I've heard that Phantom Dancer (upgrading the zeal) isn't cost efficient. As far as LW vs. BT, I would think there's definitely a number cutoff when LW becomes more cost efficient for damage over BT. (perhaps I should crunch the numbers myself. [also I usually pick up a vampscepter going into mid/late game anywho. I'll check out that reference. Thanks for the reference.[/quote]

[quote=Blaque]I've asked this question in a couple other places and the answer to "ultimate" dps ignoring armor is an IE+Zerks (which gives great harass in lane + easy last hitting) and 2 PDs (which also give great movement speed which is priceless on an AD). The fifth slot being defensive (banshees/quicksilver) & the sixth for armor pen.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, it depends onto the champ you play. If your champ has good ad-ratios (e.g. [[caitlyn]], [[ashe]]) or already enough AS through abilities([[tristana]]), you should get more AD. But if your champ doesn't do that or needs even more AS for one ability([[Vayne]]), then you should go for more AS.[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD]Considering people are not buying tons of armor in your games, I guess [icon=The Black Cleaver] would tear through teams. Let's consider you have 25 base armor pen. Let's add a [icon=The Brutalizer]. You've just reached 40. Now add 45 from Cleaver. You do true damage to anyone below 86 armor. Not to mention Cleaver gives you good AD and AS, which is pretty good when you have an [icon=Infinity Edge]. Not to mention you can turn your [icon=The Brutalizer] into [icon=Youmuu's Ghostblade], which is a sick AD-build item. EDIT: There are high chances your base Apen is 31, then you deal true damage to anything below 92 Armor. Few champions have more than 92 base armor.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Wow, there's a lot of fail in this thread... Just go look up good guides instead, since I'm too lazy to write a proper response here :P[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]please please please always get last whisper except on a few choice champions[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD][quote=Jebus McAzn] please please please always get last whisper except on a few choice champions [/quote] Unless you play in low ELO (and it is mentionned in the OP), where people tend not to know wth is a Chain Vest. Last Whisper is obvious when playing against any decent team, but it seems it is not what Blaque is facing... [quote=Searz] Wow, there's a lot of fail in this thread... Just go look up good guides instead, since I'm too lazy to write a proper response here :P [/quote] And then he's disapointed because the guide says he should get Last Whisper but other team hasnt any armor beacause they're bad. And since his team is also bad, they sent him mid against the mage, sending brand+soraka bot... Considering his ELO I feel the answers are appropriate.[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]on ads my core looks like following: (most ads that is) heal on my team: i-edge pd/lw pd/lw/another pd another pd/lw bloodthirster defitem of yr choice (switch def-item somewhere inbetween if needed^^) no strong heal: bt pd pd/lw i-edge pd/lw defitem of yr choice (baught whenever needed ofc) boots are sold lategame but i usually go for zerkers. sometimes mercs are better tho greez sam[/quote]