Let's talk about Talon

[quote=Wintermond]So, I recognized a huge rise of Talons popularity in ranked games lately, he gets picked in ~60-70% of the Games and ppl even start banning him, giving him a semi-FotM status. This made me think about the champion and I started to give him a try. What makes him so strong? [list=1] 1. He counters most AP Carries mid and is good at top/bot lane and it's very hard to gank him due to his slow, blink and stealth. 2. Once he hits 6 he is a VERY strong roamer and is usually constantly ganking top/bot lane for easy kills. 3. His huge burst(Best AD Nuker ingame, he nukes down targets from full hp in one combo once he gets BT) fits the current agressive solo q meta and even counters it with the ability to shut down one or more targets completely in a fight and deal huge AoE damage to all enemys while staying considerably safe with stealth, AoE slow and a blink. 4. His W makes him a passive farmer and he can easily hit 300cs at 30 minutes. 5. He is one of the best snowballers in the game. 6. He can build both Tanky or NUKE and both ways are strong on him. 7. He counters FotM's such as Morgana, Kog'Maw, Akali or Kassadin. [/list] I just started to enjoy Talon and he truly brings the pain into games. Although he is very Item dependent, he can simply get fed with his crazy farming ability and get an early huge advantage with his awesome scalings. He's also one of the best splitpushers in the game, he kills towers as fast as Nasus with a fully stacked Q, clears minion waves in one W and can take everyone 1v1. I think his potential was really underrated for a long time and I even think that we can see some Talon action in Tourneys in the future(Wickd already picks him for Tourneys). /discuss[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I think I'm just going to leave this here. It helped me see the amazing-nes of Talon. [youtube=g4R4q-TUFEs][/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Step 1 to beating Talon in solo top lane. Pick Mundo. Use dodge or armor yellows. Step 2. Take teleport and start gear of cloth armor 5 HP pots. Buy 2 Doran's shield's on your first back. On your second back, buy Ninja tabi and a chain vest. Use ult to regen your hp when you get lowish at any time. Proceed to finish a Warmogg's after this, and then a Sunfire cape. Step 3, and this is important. /l for the most of laning phase, since you won't even notice you're laning vrs anything. Proceed to zone Talon. Don't be afraid to eat his harass, as long as you're keeping him away from creeps. (Zoning begins with the chain vest.)[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]I've yet to see any really impressive talons tbh. I know EU uses him a lot but I just don't see it. Just as you shut down Akali, buy a pink or an oracle late game and just cc lock him. Talon has no real outs so if you counter his stealth he's done for. Maybe US just counters him more effectively because we're so used to Akali but idk.. I just have yet to see a talon that really impresses me.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Are we talking about Crystal Scar or Summoner's Rift here? If SR, when has Kassadin or Kog'Maw ever been fotm? They've been learned and played regularly, but never fotm - They're difficulties are too hard for newbies to be successful with at a rate that would be considered a bandwagon. The sheepy masses are too inept at positioning and timing to properly use those two. As for Talon - The bastard deals so much physical damage, it isn't even funny. -_- Assassins naturally become crazy strong if they snowball because if they're ahead in levels and gold that means they're more likely to 1shot you and further snowball. I personally think they need to change one of his skills to deal some magic damage to lessen the degree of physical damage he deals and make it easier to counter him. Last-Whisper plus a little life steal makes even Thornmail and Guardian Angel kind of useless against him and the guy loves LW so very much.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]He's talking about SR, Winter hates Dominion.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I also hate Dominion :P So God Damn Boring.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]He's a pretty good champion and I'd wager he'll see some competitive play It's funny to see you go around one bursting people though, Winter :D[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar][quote]If SR, when has Kassadin or Kog'Maw ever been fotm? They've been learned and played regularly, but never fotm - They're difficulties are too hard for newbies to be successful with at a rate that would be considered a bandwagon.[/quote] Atleast kog'maw is banned or picked every game over on EU side. Atleast in my and winters ELO range.[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]He's becoming a pretty popular pick for bottom lane lately. He stomps pretty hard on the current support + AD carry meta, nearly killing them in a single combo as soon as he hits 6 and clearing waves so fast especially if hes got a Janna supporting him Been trying to find ways to properly deal with it and the only thing I could think of so far was putting a tanky sustained champion with a support bottom lane.. A Yorick seemed to do the trick pretty decently[/quote]