renekton - wits end or black cleaver?

[quote=DDRmagic]this is what i generally get ionian boots - cdr sunfire cape - by the time u get it, it'll stack well with ulti and armor is good. black cleaver - goes well with w skill, armor reduce is sooo good. + dmg and atkspd warmogs - lane and team fight sustain atmas - goes well with warmogs force of nature - mr and just more sustain. for some reason game usually ends around half way through warmogs but... do you guys suggest black cleaver or wits end for renekton?[/quote]

[quote=SirSpankAlot]I use the following build: [[ionian boots of lucidity]] [[frozen mallet]] [[atma's impaler]] [[wit's end]] [[sunfire cape]] [[force of nature]][/quote]

[quote=Adonikam][quote=SirSpankAlot] I use the following build: [[ionian boots of lucidity]] [[frozen mallet]] [[atma's impaler]] [[wit's end]] [[sunfire cape]] [[force of nature]] [/quote] That's pretty good but I'd rather not have the Wits End, I'd rather Brutalizer->Yoyos[/quote]

[quote=][quote=Adonikam] [quote=SirSpankAlot] I use the following build: [[ionian boots of lucidity]] [[frozen mallet]] [[atma's impaler]] [[wit's end]] [[sunfire cape]] [[force of nature]] [/quote] That's pretty good but I'd rather not have the Wits End, I'd rather Brutalizer->Yoyos [/quote] This^[/quote]

[quote=SirSpankAlot]True dat , 126 extra damage isn't that much late game:/,[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DDRmagic] do you guys suggest black cleaver or wits end for renekton?[/quote] None of em'. [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] is imo better than both.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Adonikam] [quote=SirSpankAlot] I use the following build: [[ionian boots of lucidity]] [[frozen mallet]] [[atma's impaler]] [[wit's end]] [[sunfire cape]] [[force of nature]] [/quote] That's pretty good but I'd rather not have the Wits End, I'd rather Brutalizer->Yoyos [/quote] Singed.[/quote]

[quote=DDRmagic][quote=Searz] [quote=DDRmagic] do you guys suggest black cleaver or wits end for renekton?[/quote] None of em'. [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] is imo better than both. [/quote] the only things is i feel that any cdr more than ionian boots hinder your damage. ive tried a standard build such from mobafire and i felt all i was a big fat target that spammed all skills and stood there looking liek an idiot waiting for cooldown. even with cdr, the cooldown is still fairly long imo. thats why i like having auto attack dmg, black cleaver and wits end work well with his w skill as well. by the way, if i get both wits end and black cleaver, will both passives proc at the same time for my w skills or auto attacks in general?[/quote]

[quote=Otsdarva]Depends how tanky you wanna be if you want more burst damage I would get cleaver wits end would only really be useful if you were fighting a heavy caster team.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DDRmagic] by the way, if i get both wits end and black cleaver, will both passives proc at the same time for my w skills or auto attacks in general?[/quote] If you REALLY want one of them; get Cleaver.[/quote]