Taggrin's Solo Queue Tier List

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]sion is a consistent ban at my elo, galio is very strong in teamfights. teemo is a strong counter to the majority of solo tops. malz is just bad. his damage is just good and his ult shuts himself down for a while, and you cant really hold good positioning if you are stunned in place. yorick just falls off like renek, but he doesnt have the burst to surprise anyone. anivia has poor damage and really only belongs in premades. rammus is VERY easily countered in jungle. corki sucks, nunu is slow bot, xerath will move up, veigar too squish and needs too much farm, olaf will move up. sion cant beat olaf, but thats not the point. sion is a great farmer pusher, and really makes things happen for his team mid game.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]When Nunu is finally played as a support I feel he will be more useful ^_^ Along with Yorick. I think Yorick is tailor made to supporting.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]How can you say Teemo is a strong counter to the majority of solo tops? Ren eats Teemo for breakfast lunch and dinner, Akali, GP, Jax, Corki, Garen, Nunu, Sion, WW, far as I know they all beat Teemo easily. Perhaps he might beat Udyr, Morde, Nasus, AP carries (doubtful) and Irelia, but idk even know about that. I agree that Galio is strong in teamfights, but he isn't super good in laning and he isn't that great in lategame either. Yorick doesn't really fall off either. If you ult a fed Jungle or a fed carry, teamfight is won right there. His damage isn't as WTFBurst as Ren either, but it's still pretty high and is also semi AoE. Idk how you can say Aniv has poor damage when she has super high damage. She is very mana hungry, but her AoE is high with just ult, and single target is DEVASTATING early game with Q + E. I agree that her burst isn't 100 - 0, but neither is Karthus or Cass. I disagree too that Nunu is bad. Solo top Nunu is where its at bro. I think he would be an ok bot too, but not as good as top, he can't be super passive bot, but he also can't be super aggressive either and I don't like that at bot. And about Veigar, I don't think he needs as much farm as you think :P His full combo does more then a lot of other mages in the game. More then Annie, more then Gragas, more then Orianna. Brand and Morg are pretty much the only two who outdamage him. Which reminds me btw that I think Morg > Sion. Highest reliable damage in the game, so much fking cc, good AoE, and a shield absorbing cc... OP as fuck.[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate]And thus she's banned all the time lol. Solo-top nunu? Psh. Support Nunu bot.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Support Nunu bot is ok but still not as good as solo top Nunu.[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate]I can't picture him being good top really. I mean I can picture him staying in lane forever with his Q, But I just can't picture him actually farming that well. I guess he has a slow for ganks but his E has a low range and Flash> His ulti. Note: I'm not saying he CAN'T be good top. I just think there would be better choices.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]You actually kinda vaguely proved my point. Q keeps him in lane forever and controls jungle. He easily survives ganks thanks to and can't really be towerdived easily. It's easy to starve their top of exp and and gold just because of his harass on E. W is actually really good solo top because of the vast majority of junglers doing AD and increasing kill potential during a gank is good. His slow is excellent poke on a short cd that does tons of damage early and later pretty well guarantees a kill on a gank. It can even be used twice on one gank given the right circumstances. Not to mention ult slows as well, and is pretty well insta death for 1 champion. And if they expend flash? I'm happy. Free kill when my jungler comes, maybe even twice.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I've seen the terror of AP Sion mid... Scary shit. Banned next game because first game I din't know his terror.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I just tried Olaf and he definitely feels really strong, I was dominating my lane against Irelia without even trying, which is pretty much a first since I'm a poor solo top. Unfortunately I DC'd for a minute or two which really cost me as Irelia ended up several levels higher with a lot more minions and able to 1v1 me. We lost, but I ended up 4/4/7 and I got the feeling if I had actually known what I was doing on Olaf I could have completely dominated.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Luther3000] I got the feeling if I had actually known what I was doing on Olaf I could have completely dominated. [/quote] lol, this is exactly what it feels like when I play Olaf. I do well, but always feel I could dominate.[/quote]