Nocturne Build Guide : The Nocturnomicon :: League of Legends Strategy Builds

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Hello,
first of all great guide! I want to ask you what do you think about a on-hit build. Maybe something like trinity, BORK or wit's end.
Have a nice day!

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You can win with on-hit but I don't think it's optimal. Bruiser works better vs tanky teams. If you go for mostly attack speed items, it's hard to get enough attacks off to make them worth it 'cause you'll be quite squishy.

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Thank you very much!

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i loved your guide, specially the threats and synergies part

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Updated the build with the meta setup (Tempo is still good as well). Also split the build into 2 since the bruiser build is currently dominant and it was a lot easier to organize the two builds separately. Assassin build is still good but you need to use it into the right comps (lots of squishies, low peel). Into ranged champions that aren't super free kills, works fine.

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the real assasin

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great guide!

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Hello im very new in league of legends, im level 46 and bronze 3, but i liked this guide for nocturne and i have a question: Wouldn't it be better to use Eclipse before Daktar to one-shot with the assassin build?

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gives you ability haste, which lets you cast your ultimate more often, and invisibility after you 1-shot someone. It also deals basically the same damage as until later in the game, when Eclipse's mythic passive is stacked up. I'd recommend Duskblade as it'll give you more opportunities to get kills and you'll be safe from being focused after killing someone, because you'll be invisible long enough to reposition.

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Hi, I gave your build a try and it worked out great. Just need a bit more practice with it. In terms of the Bruiser build when would be the best scenario to use it?

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Generally when the enemy team isn't squishy / vulnerable enough to use a full damage build. If you're against a lot of tanks/bruisers, peeling supports like , and the enemy team is going to be grouped a lot of the time, it can be basically impossible to reliably 1-shot someone.

The Bruiser build still lets you kill people, but you'll do it over time and you'll be a lot tankier for team fights. It's not as strong at carrying, since getting picks solo is more difficult (the enemy has more time to escape or get help), but it guarantees you won't be useless in team fights.

For example, I used the bruiser build against a team with , , , and . I could probably kill any of those champions with the Assassin build if they were alone, but when grouped, my only viable target would be MF (and she built that game). Instead, I was able to fight anyone on their team, even in team fights, since I couldn't be bursted through and had enough DPS from to kill their tankier guys.

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realised in your warding section you still have the text as "warding totem" instead of . Idk why riot decided to change the name, having only the icon changed was good enough but meh.

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Wow, I didn't even realize they changed the name. Thanks for the tip, I'll update the guide now.

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what do you think of the of preseason 11 on pbe for nocturne?

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Lethality items look pretty good but it's hard to say for certain what options there'll be. Nocturne has historically had pretty radically different builds based on which items are strong. I'm hoping we'll end up with more build flexibility than there was for Noc this past season, but there's a lot of uncertainty with PBE testing so I'll reserve judgment for when the preseason patch actually goes live.

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hey can you make a update log on what you've updated on? it would really help

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I usually post a comment for any major updates.

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Noc is free LP using this guide lol :D

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Updated items and added a second skill order (and optional to runes). I fleshed out the assassin builds a bit more to better demonstrate how to build situationally. The relevant chapters of the guide also reflect these changes. Hope you guys find it helpful! :)

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Finally finished my latest update to the guide. Did some tweaking to the items, runes and skill order and added some more options for tankier builds. Also updated the jungle monsters and jungle routes sections.

I ended up overhauling the Threat Meter (matchups) in the cheatsheet since it didn't really reflect when I chose to pick Nocturne and a lot of the jungle matchups weren't common enough for me to safely comment on. Instead I added a number of matchups across several roles as well as some common jungle picks. Hopefully the new Threat Meter will help you guys know when to pick Nocturne and when to avoid him (or just be prepared for a tough game).

Hope you enjoy!

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Finally finished my latest update to the guide. Did some tweaking to the items, runes and skill order and added some more options for tankier builds. Also updated the jungle monsters and jungle routes sections.

I ended up overhauling the Threat Meter (matchups) in the cheatsheet since it didn't really reflect when I chose to pick Nocturne and a lot of the jungle matchups weren't common enough for me to safely comment on. Instead I added a number of matchups across several roles as well as some common jungle picks. Hopefully the new Threat Meter will help you guys know when to pick Nocturne and when to avoid him (or just be prepared for a tough game).

Hope you enjoy!

Nice. I like the Threat Meter section that isn't just about jungle match-ups.

Thoughts on the + build path? I've tried in one Normal so far and it went well. I've actually had some good success building first item (and only buying the jungle item for the combat summoner). The base stats + splash damage + lifesteal seem to give me an edge in early scrums though I think offers a stronger power spike for assassinations and duels.

The one or two times I've played against a , I've found you can't just dive on her. You have to threaten her enough for her to pop her ult while you still have your gap closers. Spell shield the stun then murder her. But of course that is me playing at a low gold MMR, so ymv.

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I assume you're talking about the build from that Phy video? A friend showed it to me recently but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.

Imo Warrior is too good of a powerspike to give up or delay for other items though.

Yeah I agree about the Xayah thing, but when you have all this conditional elements on the enemy team, you're much more likely to be sitting around useless until someone blows a cooldown. It's a huge disadvantage to have to force your team to blow her ult before you can threaten her.

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I assume you're talking about the build from that Phy video? A friend showed it to me recently but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.

Imo Warrior is too good of a powerspike to give up or delay for other items though.

Yeah I agree about the Xayah thing, but when you have all this conditional elements on the enemy team, you're much more likely to be sitting around useless until someone blows a cooldown. It's a huge disadvantage to have to force your team to blow her ult before you can threaten her.

Not sure on the phylol build. Re I just noticed that Noc had a 55.5% winrate when building it as a first item (LoLalytics), which was a much better rate than the other items at least at the time I looked at the stats so I built it first in a couple of games and it felt like a solid buy, especially when I jumped onto a target that quickly got some peel (often managed to take down the target and the peeler).

Warrior + Statikk - my quick thoughts are it feels potent but also somehow more awkward than the previous iteration of statikk (like it doesn't proc predictably), but that may be because I'm simply not used to its updated behavior. Also I felt like I was having to use more mana for my jungle clears than when I went first, which left me having to husband it more to be able to make plays around the map. But I was also trying an 18-0-12 build at the time and using Warlord as my Keystone which kept me nice and healthy on my jungle clears, but may have indirectly influenced how I was using mana.

Agreed on Xayah. She is awkward to play against because of her ult and having to keep track of the things that she leaves behind you.

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If the Ravenous rush is working for you don't let me stop you. Early lifesteal and AoE is pretty nice, as long as it doesn't cut into your kill potential too much. I feel like Nocturne's itemization is pretty flexible.

Tbh that shouldn't make that much of a difference in terms of mana. After your initial clear, all the camps are pretty easy except maybe raptors. That's the only time I really notice the tiamat anyway.

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which left me having to husband it more

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If the Ravenous rush is working for you don't let me stop you. Early lifesteal and AoE is pretty nice, as long as it doesn't cut into your kill potential too much. I feel like Nocturne's itemization is pretty flexible.

Tbh that shouldn't make that much of a difference in terms of mana. After your initial clear, all the camps are pretty easy except maybe raptors. That's the only time I really notice the tiamat anyway.

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Husband as in a frugal manager.

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May have just been that particular game. E.g. Little breathing space between clearing camps and fighting or fights starting right when you would really like to back and top off/buy.

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Think he meant it left him having to wife it more, he's not gay afaik.

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