Ashe - the most underrated and abused champion...

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Nighthawk] Actually Dyrus vs Anaxxamer or wtf his name is wasn't that bad. He strongly out damaged though. [/quote] [url=http://www.mobafire.com/profile/vvv-anaxamander-119627]Anaxamander[/url]?[/quote]

[quote=Icuonuez][quote=Arcanitum] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] "With the right build" Ashe currently cant fight her way out of a paper bag. Shes outclassed by all the other ad carries. I could go on. But youre oblivious to this. Tristana is fotm since they used her at gamescon with wriggles. [/quote] It's kinda' hard to argue with you, because you seem to pretty much HATE Ashe. It may be because you got your ass kicked by her or something, I don't know, but claiming that she's so horrible compared to other AD carries is just stupid. [/quote] But she is horrible compared to other AD carries.. I play [[Ashe]] to great success, and I know if I had picked [[Vayne]] or [[Sivir]] I could've done so much better (Or in the case of Support, [[Janna]] or [[Karma]]). It's not that people are bad with her, even though this doesn't help the case. It's that she's bad. COME AT ME BRO![/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I would say it's not that Ashe is bad... It's just that if the AD carry role is designed for dealing mass DPS, and other ranged AD carry types can deal more DPS... Let's use our logic here...[/quote]

[quote=Icuonuez][quote=DuffTime] I would say it's not that Ashe is bad... It's just that if the AD carry role is designed for dealing mass DPS, and other ranged AD carry types can deal more DPS... Let's use our logic here... [/quote] It all comes down to the same thing though. She's just not as good as other carries, for one reason. Her dps just isn't good enough.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yeah, that's my point. Logically she as an AD carry is inferior to many other AD carry choices.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Icuonuez] [quote=DuffTime] I would say it's not that Ashe is bad... It's just that if the AD carry role is designed for dealing mass DPS, and other ranged AD carry types can deal more DPS... Let's use our logic here... [/quote] It all comes down to the same thing though. She's just not as good as other carries, for one reason. Her dps just isn't good enough. [/quote] Man, how is it that I always have to explain the goddamn game to everyone in the end? So here's how this works: Arranged team, don't pick Ashe, as it's been stated more than enough any other AD carry outDPSes her right now. Solo Q WHOLE OTHER STORY Well she still does less DPS than others, but in solo Q you really can't count on your team to play good, or at least to play as an arranged team, and this is where Ashe's utility kicks in: Her kit makes her effective in any team. Your team is failing at initiating? there's your ult Your Support/team provide about 0 map awarness? oh whatever I can toss my bird around You are getting less CD then your enemy counterpart? good news if you're not that far in CS you prolly still have more gold thx to your E passive. Plus she's the only AD Carry with a permaslow. Ashe is a great solo Q pick, that is it. That said I'll keep playing [[Caitlyn]] because she's hotter and gives me that 60 to 70% win ratio I just love[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]wat lol If anything Ashe is worse in solo queue and better in arranged teams, because she's the squishiest champ in the game with no escapes and her ult requires your team to follow it up. If your team sucks you're gonna die every teamfight.[/quote]

[quote=Icuonuez]@ZioSerpe 88.9% ranked Caitlyn win ratio here :D Also, I'd rather play Ashe in arranged than in Solo. My team knows when I'm about to fire an epic arrow off. In solo Q, my team is like, "Arrow landed! What do!?"[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]Pff, lowbobs. 100 % ranked Caitlyn wins here :D Ashe is just... meh. Not strong enough to be a worthy AD carry, not tanky enough to be tank/offtank and not supporty enough to be support. She's kinda... nothing o_0 [[Volley]] costs too much mana, I don't play her often anymore but when I did I was oom all the time -_-[/quote]

[quote=Icuonuez]Did you just 1^ me, Creamy? I just got 1^'d[/quote]