COUNTER PICKING

[quote=Thalia Kael]ad melees like shyvana counter ranged squishy carries[/quote]

[quote=Samoh]If you know about champion range, then anything with a bigger range is generally a fine counter pick (Ad carry). As far as solo top goes, find out which champions are passive, and counter pick with an aggressive?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]There is so much false information in this thread I'm almost crying from laughter.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena][quote=DuffTime] There is so much false information in this thread I'm almost crying from laughter. [/quote] ^ bingo.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]Kass is pretty good vs squishy APs like brand Also veig ult good vs APs[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog][quote=DuffTime] There is so much false information in this thread I'm almost crying from laughter. [/quote] Not being sarcastic, but then could you share your expertise with us?[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Thalia Kael] ad melees like shyvana counter ranged squishy carries [/quote] Not necessarily. The counter to AD carries is generally a burst champion or an assassin. Champs with gap closers are also fairly effective at countering AD carries, though champs with gap closers are often initiators or assassins.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=mastajdog] but then could you share your expertise with us? [/quote] It was mostly in regards to comments being made about the duo lane bot. Some of the counters were just not correct. For example; Ashe can counter Vayne. THE FUCK? Lol. I don't even think she can counter Teemo. Cait counter's Vayne... Theoretically? Actually in practice, she really doesn't. You can tumble Cait's Q's easily. If the Vayne player cannot tumble Cait Q's then I don't know how to help that player... Vayne gets whooped for about 5-10 minutes due to auto attack range, but you'll still be able to farm. Just hug the pants off your turret and farm up~ If you do it well you'll very likely end up about 20 CS behind, depending on your opponent and on you, this number could vary. Then, you buy Wriggle's and a Doran's blade or two, and around level 6-11 things turn around and Vayne takes control of the lane back, and runs a train on her ass. Not much Cait can do at that point but run away. It's just things like that that I was referring to. False counters and such.[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]^ Vayne's weakness is by far her laning phase, pretty much any AD has a better laning phase than Vayne and good AD players will punish her for that pretty hard Unless Vayne gets babysat by the jungler or somehow gets a kill, she should always lose her lane against most AD carries And yes it's mostly cause of her range, especially Caitlyn will absolutely wreck her in the laning phase, doing free damage to vayne all day.[/quote]

[quote=TheWeekndOVOXO][quote=DuffTime] There is so much false information in this thread I'm almost crying from laughter. [/quote] I had to +rep again. Duff always wins.[/quote]