Rushing Trinity Force On Talon

[quote=example1013][quote=Wintermond] [quote=example1013] There are like 3 champs who buy manamune: Blitz, some Ezreals (my friend buys it on AP ez), and Yorick. I can't think of any other champ who you'd want it on. [/quote] Yorick. Cut Blitz and Ezreal please, the item is not half as good as ppl say it's on them. [/quote] I can't defend my position, so I'm not going to argue.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Wintermond] [quote=example1013] There are like 3 champs who buy manamune: Blitz, some Ezreals (my friend buys it on AP ez), and Yorick. I can't think of any other champ who you'd want it on. [/quote] Yorick. Cut Blitz and Ezreal please, the item is not half as good as ppl say it's on them. [/quote] Yeah, manamune isnt that good on Blitz[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Wintermond] HI MY NAME IS POPPY [/quote] Hi Poppy. I hope to God you aren't rushing Trinity Force. [quote=AncientNecro] I shall not argue. -Could you please go in-depth on this one? Give me a rant, boyo'. I'm not necessarily of a different opinion. I'd like to know the reasoning and whatnot behind this though. I think Trinity is decent on several champions (I don't necessarily "rush" it as I go boots + wriggles first on most champs that I take trinity on). But the items leading up to trinity aren't all that bad. Phage is a decent starter, sheen is good next on some champs (ie. shaco, wukong, corki, etc.) I think the build-up to trinity force is a lot more valuable early-mid game than some other items that people rush. [/quote] It's a fantastic item, one of the most cost effective and encompassing items, with loads of benefits. It's just shallow. It doesn't cover your high priority bases at all, it just helps over all. To spend 4k gold to get a general spread of stats, a 30% slow, and a 150% base damage proc with some move speed... *Shakes head* That's shitty on any champion, doesn't matter what your name is. The exceptions? TT map, and Dominion map. Not a problem there. In SR, you need to specialize a little bit to be effective. A very quick look at talon, shows us 150% AoE AD ratio. If the ult hits a target twice, that's now a 240 AD AoE ratio. A closer look tells us he has a 130% RATIO for BONUS AD! ON HIS Q ALONE. If you land full combo on a target, that's 240 AD and 130 bonus AD. Don't tell me that 4k gold into Triforce is going to net you "Real" damage. Now, that means that on Talon, building one BT is already more cost effective that building a Triforce. Bang, one 3k gold item is better, straight away. Since you have massive crushing AD ratios, USE THEM! It also means that BT, I.E, LW, And GA are all better choices than T.F.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=TheJohn] Yeah, manamune isnt that good on Blitz [/quote] It's Bad on Blitz. It's okay on Ez/Corki if you're planning to poke siege towers for a long time.[/quote]

[quote=Maserato]My talon build is generally (assuming mid lane as he is obviously best there) is boots and pots brutalizer then infinity if good game bloodthirster if not. Then get whichever you don't have. At this point I might pick up a trinity if I'm 30/0 or something stupid but otherwise guardian angel the finish yomuus[/quote]

[quote=example1013]So here's an interesting question, does Manamune's bonus passive even work on champions without mana?[/quote]

[quote=Maserato]^cdr/mana garen build gogogo[/quote]

[quote=Atarios]For talon ,its pretty much like riven , stacking ad lul [quote=example1013] So here's an interesting question, does Manamune's bonus passive even work on champions without mana? [/quote] no , ive tried it on kat , only gives you 20 ad. inb4 duff calls me bad[/quote]

[quote=Maserato]Talon is an attack damage caster. He needs ad. Cooldown reduction, armor pen and crit. Attack speed is almost useless on him so is the ap from tryn force. Just doesn't give him what he needs.[/quote]

[quote=Babit][quote=Atarios] no , ive tried it on kat , only gives you 20 ad. inb4 duff calls me bad [/quote] lol'd[/quote]