Open your minds

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]Eternal optimist here, so yeah. Sway me not of optimism, for its an unmovable object. And no, Xin cant put it to rest... Things that are 'worse' usually require more team work to make it happen. But the topic of AD Gragas... I do so enjoy the way I play him, but I can never get a game long enough for a full build... Never went negative though.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]It's not just about making things work, finishing builds, or going positive or negative. How much or how little is a player contributing, this is a very important and key element when considering a build and even the champion you're choosing. If your contribution is not large enough, you're a non-factor.[/quote]

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]I agree with you on that. Ive seen so many strong champs played by timid people that the champ is useless. But no matter who and how you play, if you and your team cant build the Pillars, you will sow Chaos amongst your team[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Lols :P[/quote]

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]You lol at that cuz you know its true. Ill give you an example. A friend of mine known as Slappy is always playing for the lols. Just to have fun. So every now and again, he trolls. His most recent trololol moment was what he called Combat Karthus. Built with AtMog's, and sheen for Triforce, he carried the team with 10/0/10 score. Is it viable for ranked play? probably not. But it worked. It worked cuz Pillars were built for us, and Chaos sown for them. That said, Combat Karthus, AtMog's + Triforce since thats how long the game lasted, less viable than AP, but still able to get the job done. No pressing R and pentakilling. Just great communication and knowing what you and your team can do[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]*Facedesk[/quote]

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]You keep face desking, and your good look are gonna be gone. And you can facedesk all you like. But if you get the chance to play against slappy and our team, you gonna see the power of Combat Karthus.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]It's funny being able to take things that everyone considers you retarded for trying and then they feel retarded for getting the shit kicked out of them by something should have never worked to begin with, such as Combat Karthus. I think of those moments for people who have played so much, they already know how to play every champion (as technically made to play and accepted by the majority of the community). They just want to have fun and possibly prove that it doesn't make a difference what items you have. Any champions can literally do anything, just not meant to be taken seriously during most of it. These are just things you don't ever try with less than a full team because there will be that random person that has no faith. After all, it is a team game.[/quote]