Items for Graves

[quote=TheKut]I have Graves and I like to play him alot, but I can't think of an item combo for him to deal maximum damage. I currently use [[Berserker's Greaves]], [[Phantom Dancer]], [[Infinity Edge]], [[Frozen Mallet]], [[The Bloodthirster]] and [[Last Whisper]], but I don't think that he reaches full potential with these items. I've been thinking of replacing an item with [[Manamune]] or giving him the [color=#ff0000]At[/color][color=#008000]mog[/color] combo. For those of you who don't know what that is it's the combination of [[Atma's Impaler]] and [[Warmog's Armor]]. Could those items be good with Graves? Any other ideas?[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz]I mostly go this build, 2x [[doran's blade]], [[Berserker's Greaves]], [[wriggle's lantern]], [[Infinity edge]], [[Zeal]] and a [[Black Cleaver]] (sell 1 of the doran's) usually works for me. The rest is situational. There are stronger builds for higher damage output, but I like this build cause of the sustain and it has a strong mid game making you a bit harder to kill, and you are still able to deal high damage.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][[Infinity Edge]] [[Phantom Dancer]] [[Last whisper]] all day every day.[/quote]

[quote=TheKut][quote=Slappiz] I mostly go this build, 2x [[doran's blade]], [[Berserker's Greaves]], [[wriggle's lantern]], [[Infinity edge]], [[Zeal]] and a [[Black Cleaver]] (sell 1 of the doran's) usually works for me. The rest is situational. There are stronger builds for higher damage output, but I like this build cause of the sustain and it has a strong mid game making you a bit harder to kill, and you are still able to deal high damage. [/quote] Ok, thanks, but I wanted a build on what items I should have when I'm maxed[/quote]

[quote=TheKut][quote=Luther3000] [[Infinity Edge]] [[Phantom Dancer]] [[Last whisper]] all day every day. [/quote] Of course, these items is a must have to pretty much any DPS.[/quote]

[quote=TheKut]Does anyone know if Manamune or Atmog is good for Graves?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Manamune no. Atmogg's situationally.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I'd still throw manamune on him because I'm terrible with mana management. I don't remember how much mana issues I had last time I played him so, maybe not.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]thank god no one said trinity force. its such a stupid item for him even if he nearly has the cds to use it. i saw a nautilus with trinity force the other day and i fucking lost it. fucking retards building trinity force on a champion who doesnt have the cooldowns to utilize it.[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][quote=TheKut] Does anyone know if Manamune or Atmog is good for Graves? [/quote] What Duff said about Manamune. It's waaaaaaay inferior, damage-wise, to just adding another BT. If you're looking to [u]maximize damage[/u], you won't want Atmog's. I'm not saying it's not good (it's dumb good), but it doesn't provide as much AD as pretty much any two items that're standard AD carry fare. Atmog's is great when you need to stay alive longer (and therefore do more damage), but isn't great for DPS on Graves. To maximize damage, I'd suggest two [[Phantom Dancer]]s, two of [[The Bloodthirster]], an [[Infinity Edge]], and either a [[Last Whisper]] or [[The Black Cleaver]] depending on enemy armor (meaning LW every time against non-stupid teams). Built like this, you'll have massive AD (you're building +320 or +335) and massive crits nearly all the time (93% crit chance with a green potion), but you'll have no survivability. So unless your team can make sure you stay alive, this isn't an ideal build; DPS is 0 when you're dead.[/quote]