Items for Graves

[quote=Xaioli][quote=RosePhoenix] TBC is if the enemies you're targetting have a little bit of armor. Last Whisper is if the enemies you're facing have a lot of armor. You're generally not focused on one target as the ADC, therefore getting Last Whisper is usually better. TBC works better on some champs who try to single out enemies to skirmishes. [/quote] Thanks for adding onto what I missed in my post! You are correct about TBC and LW. The only reason why most people don't see TBC is because AD's are so strong mid-late game and people almost always stack Armor or they just keep getting decimated even if you have TBC or TBC :p. But yeah anyways good work edit: also forgot to say LW is cheaper to make than TBC by a couple hundred of gold. Couple hundred of gold is very precious in mid-late game so reselling TBC later on for LW is kinda bad for the wallet T-T[/quote]

[quote=Somalie]Vayne loves crit also because she has AD steroid with ult and with Q. She scales so much with AS, crit and AD it's not even fair ... For early AD build, think about vamp scepter (alone) after boots and 1-2 doran's blades, even with sustain lane, if you face a heavy harass lane. That would help your support not going oom. It depends a lot of your support (champ and skill) and your hability to not take free harass. BF + zeal is a good start in my opinion, the MS helps a ton against some lane. If you want to go "tanky" with Frozen Mallet or Atmog or GA or whatever, be sure you really need it. If a fed bruiser or anti carry loves to target you and cant be stopped because lack of CC or CC immunity, dont hesitate. But it's not a "all game every game" option (which is not an option anymore in this case) as IE + PD is.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]She doesn't scale as well with crit, it's just forced into her build naturally through Phantom dancers(highest AS item she would want) and Infin edge(highest AD item in the game other than fully stacked bloodthirster). Also, if she's focused, she will die which is why [[ie]] is so good. She needs her damage fast. She can't afford to keep stacking the bloodthirster before every team fight.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Lugignaf] She doesn't scale as well with crit [/quote] *Slam face desk*[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I don't play AD carries so, excuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess. What I'm saying is, compared to Trist, who has a 90% AS steroid, she doesn't scale as well with crit. I didn't mean that "Crit is terrible for Vayne, it's just slightly less viable" I know what I want to say, it's just not coming out correctly right now.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]She has a big ass AD steroid.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I still think, the most important stat on Vayne is AS, especially lategame. After first B.F. Item(doesn't really matter which one) you should rush [[phantom dancer]] ASAP[/quote]

[quote=Sujing]Definitely [[Infinity Edge]], [[Phantom Dancer]], [[Last Whisper]], [[Bloodthirster]], and [[Berserker's Greaves]]. For the last item, it's situational but since you are asking for maximum damage possible...go another [[Bloodthirster]] if you can kill 40 more creeps to get the most out of its passive or another [[Phantom Dancer]] to get more attack speed so you can get more attacks in.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]At that point Phantom Dancer is much better than another Bloodthirster if you want to increase your damage. You can also sell your boots if you have two PDs.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Vayne with I.E. / PD / LW is the highest single target DPS in the game in my opinion. o: I think her deeps are bigger than Tristana.[/quote]