15% CDR Boots

[quote=B-Wong]So wait, you feel that the CDR boots are useless? 15% CDR comes from a Frozen Heart. If the boots cost as little as most people suggest, then I think they'll have a rightful place in the metagame somewhere. There's a reason why some people constantly want blue buff (Garen, Tryndamere, Katarina, etc.) and just being able to replace old boots for a whopping 15% CDR is a pretty damn good thing if you ask me. Sure it gives up some CC reduction but you shouldn't be getting caught with CC depending on what character you're playing.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Actually, Frozen Heart gives 25% CDR. Still, I support the CDR boots since they'll be a great alternative to Boots of Swiftness on many champions - say that the game is going in a direction where you don't need Ninja Tabi or Merc Treads (GASP). A character like Shen, Garen, or Tryndamere would welcome these boots.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]Oh shit I'm retarded. Well whatever much CDR it gives, other items cost more and give an arguably less beneficial 2nd effect (movement > other shit IMO)[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]The question is, on which characters is it really worth it to give up the utility from Merc, the magic pen from Sorcerer's, or the dodge/armor from Tabi? Honestly, I can actually see Lux and Morgana both using these boots instead of Sorc Shoes. That goes for most utility champs in general (Janna, Soraka, maybe Taric)[/quote]

[quote=SixSonatas][quote=Jebus McAzn] The question is, on which characters is it really worth it to give up the utility from Merc, the magic pen from Sorcerer's, or the dodge/armor from Tabi? Honestly, I can actually see Lux and Morgana both using these boots instead of Sorc Shoes. That goes for most utility champs in general (Janna, Soraka, maybe Taric) [/quote] Sorc Shoes are SO good early game and for characters that don't build MR since it makes their MR negative, amplifying damage so much more. But yeah, I can see manaless heroes making good use of these boots, but personally I think survivability or damage amp would work so much better. Simply because things like [[Glacial Shroud]] offer 20% CDR for 1600 (as well as armor/MP) where [[Spirit Visage]] offers 12% CDR for 1250 (as well as MR/HP). They're cheap options for CDR and lets you be more offensive or defensive with the boots.[/quote]

[quote=Shrillex]It's just another item that will be used. Would rather have Dorans and see what that was though.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]but they did vote 4 to 1 on the boots. so i don't think the doran's item was that great.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Well the point of having a Doran's item is so that you have to sell it late game because its benefits are becoming sub-par. Also, who could really benefit from small amounts of armor, HP5, MP5, AP, AD, lifesteal, and health?[/quote]

[quote=SixSonatas][quote=caucheka] but they did vote 4 to 1 on the boots. so i don't think the doran's item was that great. [/quote] They voted 4:1 for boots; they didn't know what the effects of both items were pre-voting. So the Doran's effects remain unknown. [quote=Jebus McAzn] Well the point of having a Doran's item is so that you have to sell it late game because its benefits are becoming sub-par. Also, who could really benefit from small amounts of armor, HP5, MP5, AP, AD, lifesteal, and health? [/quote] With proper Doran's item usage and stacking, most people still have 1 or 2 (assuming start 3) by end game; games usually doesn't go that long where ALL of the Doran's items are sold off. Plus, for their cheap price, Doran items actually offer quite a healthy stat boost.[/quote]

[quote=Kael312]new thought on the dorans item, dorans jungling beat stick, atk spd, life steal, armor.[/quote]