Vapora Dark wrote:
Talon is not an AP carry, lmfao. He's an anti-AP carry.
Talon is a nuke not an ap carry. Thatswhat I was trying to say
M5 too strong? better nerf irelia
We just had awesome team composition last night on ranked. Ashe + Sona on bot, Kennen mid, Malphite jungle and Gangplank top.
Unstoppable Force,
Crescendo,
Cannon Barrage,
Slicing Maelstrom and
Enchanted Crystal Arrow. Problem bro?






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A lot of AP carries are nukes, not all (Katarina for instance doesn't have a nuke), but most.
I like taking an AP Carry/Nuke or a ranged AD Carry mid and stacking
1) AP/Spell vamp/Mana - Veigar/Karthus/Ziggs etc.
-A few health pots so I don't have to back continuously
-Lucky Pick > Deathfire Grasp
-Archangel's Staff
-Morello's Evil Tomb
-Ninja's Tabi or Sorc Shoes depending on who you're laning agaist.
-Rabadon's Deathcap
Now I would probably get another Deathcap here, because even if the 30% of your mana doesn't stack on to your AP for the second Deathcap, you're still receiving another 140 AP which is beast. If not, go for maybe a Frozen Heart.
2) Life steal/damage/crit/atkspd - Ashe/Sivir/Caitlyn/Kog'maw etc.
- Vampiric Scepter
- Berserker's Greaves
- Phantom Dancer
- Infinity Edge
and from there it's pretty much situational,
-You could go Atmog's (Atma's Impaler/Warmog's/Bloodthirster) if you're feeling squishy
or you could go for Madred's Bloodrazor/Bloodthirster/Black Cleaver) for that extra AD /Armor Penetration/Magic Damage equal to 4% of your targets health/Life Steal/Attack Speed
That's my usual build and it works quite nicely when I have a good team surrounding me.
I'm usually at least double my deaths in kills an first in the match(when playing with a good team).
I like taking an AP Carry/Nuke or a ranged AD Carry mid and stacking
1) AP/Spell vamp/Mana - Veigar/Karthus/Ziggs etc.
-A few health pots so I don't have to back continuously
-Lucky Pick > Deathfire Grasp
-Archangel's Staff
-Morello's Evil Tomb
-Ninja's Tabi or Sorc Shoes depending on who you're laning agaist.
-Rabadon's Deathcap
Now I would probably get another Deathcap here, because even if the 30% of your mana doesn't stack on to your AP for the second Deathcap, you're still receiving another 140 AP which is beast. If not, go for maybe a Frozen Heart.
2) Life steal/damage/crit/atkspd - Ashe/Sivir/Caitlyn/Kog'maw etc.
- Vampiric Scepter
- Berserker's Greaves
- Phantom Dancer
- Infinity Edge
and from there it's pretty much situational,
-You could go Atmog's (Atma's Impaler/Warmog's/Bloodthirster) if you're feeling squishy
or you could go for Madred's Bloodrazor/Bloodthirster/Black Cleaver) for that extra AD /Armor Penetration/Magic Damage equal to 4% of your targets health/Life Steal/Attack Speed
That's my usual build and it works quite nicely when I have a good team surrounding me.
I'm usually at least double my deaths in kills an first in the match(when playing with a good team).

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