Runes for Shyvana

[quote=tehAsian][quote=ulyssessgranthoe] then rush berserker's greaves and madreds to make up for lost as. [/quote] That's a really bad idea. Better to go [[wriggle's lantern]] > [[mercury's treads]] > [[wit's end]]. [[madred's bloodrazor]] should come last or close to last.[/quote]

[quote=TheWeekndOVOXO]Yup, agreed. [[Wit's End]] is a core item on Shyvana. That itself will give you all the AS you need.[/quote]

[quote=ulyssessgranthoe]I'm relatively new to lol started a month ago. Could you tell me why it would be bad to start with madreds?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]It's because Madred deals more damage the more HP your targets have. Enemies just don't have that much HP before lategame. Lategame is the only place where Madred is truly useful. I wouldn't buy madred on Shyvana at all though.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]In addition Madred's is ridiculously expensive and you'll be really squishy if you build it early.[/quote]

[quote=TheWeekndOVOXO][quote=Luther3000] In addition Madred's is ridiculously expensive and you'll be really squishy if you build it early. [/quote] True, then again, Madred's aren't even that necessary on Shyvana. There are far many other items that synergize with Shyvana's abilities and her kit way much more. If anything, [[wriggle's lantern]] should be the only item bought if you went with [[madred's razors]].[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]It's strong because your Q counts as 2 hits, and it's a 2 hit CLEAVE. It's strong because it makes you attack faster, giving you more Q's. It's strong because it gives AD and tankiness. It's strong because it has great synergy with [[shyvana]]. There's no reason to completely ignore it, but nevertheless it's incredible on her.[/quote]

[quote=Somalie]And doing it as a first item is like killing your self in lane / first little teamfight.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=tehAsian] It's strong because your Q counts as 2 hits, and it's a 2 hit CLEAVE. It's strong because it makes you attack faster, giving you more Q's. It's strong because it gives AD and tankiness. It's strong because it has great synergy with [[shyvana]]. There's no reason to completely ignore it, but nevertheless it's incredible on her.[/quote] It's a BAD item before lategame. Even in lategame you're often better off with AD items than with on hit items because of her W. It is NOT incredible on her. It's good and ONLY in lategame.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Revolving a build around W is kind of bad because it has really bad scaling. I should have said incredible in late game :p[/quote]