I still don't understand jungling...

[quote=Buranri]I read that big long guide a few times, decided to get Amumu to try jungling with. Sounds good, right? So I start a custom game with bots, go out... and get raped. Within in 5 minutes I still haven't gotten blue buff, my first tower is dead, I'm out of mana and health. Yeah, that game isn't happening. So I quit, start another game, and a similar thing happens. Within a few minutes I'm almost dead, and I haven't gotten anywhere significant. What am I doing wrong? I mean... how do you make jungling work? Every time I've tried it I just end up with little to no xp or gold, and fall way behind.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]You kinda need runes and masteries to jungle effectively on most champs, most importantly 9x [[Greater seal of resilience]]. I'm assuming that's the problem.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]First and foremost, what route are you taking, what masteries are you using, and what runes are you using, oh, and what skill order/starting item? I definitely wouldn't recommend Amumu if you don't have armour runes.[/quote]

[quote=Majamorra]Well here in MOBAfire we have a excellent [[Amumu]] jungle guide, it's extremdly difficult jungle with [[Amumu]] if you don't have runes and masteries. A good jungler can carry your team to the victory with his ganks :D[/quote]

[quote=Buranri]Ah. That would make a difference... I'm only level 11, so I don't have access to a whole lot of runes or masteries. I guess I'll just keep playing other roles until 30 then? I do fairly well with carries, I think. My two best are Ziggs and Fiora, even with my limited amount of runes and masteries.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Buranri] I guess I'll just keep playing other roles until 30 then? [/quote] Honestly, there are quite a few champions that can jungle really well with/without runes. Examples include - Warwick, Trundle, Shen, Udyr, Olaf, Shaco (Shaco is extremely tricky to master, however),[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Warwick is best for you IMO if you don't have runes. You'll have easiest time keeping him at mid-high health. Also Udyr doesn't drop with health so far, but I'd recommend Phoenix jungle, not Tiger(if anyone still even uses Tiger jungle).[/quote]

[quote=CaRtRiG8ToR]also start with efficent jungling items, smite as summonerspell and watch the health of the enemy champions. thats the trick, not too atack or try to gank a full health champ, but waiting and leveling untill 1 is weak and then you kill him.[/quote]

[quote=That Trev Person]You gain access to the highest level runes at summoner level 20, and if you want to jungle I'd recommend saving up IP beforehand so you can buy 9 [[seal of resilience]]s right away. In addition to these, other necessities as a jungling [[amumu]] would be [[smite]] as a summoner spell and taking [[despair]] at your first level. Also, in a real game it helps to get a leash from your mid lane. How this works is your mid lane auto attacks or casts a spell over the wall at Ancient Golem, and it tries to walk around to get them. Done right, you get a lot of free damage on it before it finally changes targets. If you look at my sig, you'll see I recently published an [[amumu]] guide, and it explains my jungle route, runes, and masteries there :D *Shameless advertising* :P[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy][quote=That Trev Person] You gain access to the highest level runes at summoner level 20, and if you want to jungle I'd recommend saving up IP beforehand so you can buy 9 [[seal of resilience]]s right away. [/quote] He means [[Greater Seal of Resilience]] ;)[/quote]