[DISCUSS] What do you think about Karma, THE...

[quote=PerpetualDuplicity][quote=Sanara] I love Karma and her kit but i dont play her very much. Her main problem is the current meta in my opionnion. shes worthless without any farm. she can heal and shield but she needs (next to ap) massive cdr to be effective,thats why you need farm. janna for example is the perfect support. she just needs a philo,a hog,boots and wards. with some little tweaks i think Karma would be a more viable support champ. For example: give her 1 Mantra more and reduce the cooldown. Change the coan of her q spell, nothing is more frustration than skillshoting half your team but just hit 1 of your guys. solotop/mid Karma should work too but i think she is more of a hybrid burst/support champ, there she isnt that viable right now like taric,janna,soraka etc. just my opinion [/quote] Or when your idiot teammates run away from the cone. God I hate that. I rage at them in chat.[/quote]

[quote=Sanara]lol yeah happens very often.its really annoying to ping like a retard just to make sure they know that ur going to heal[/quote]

[quote=PerpetualDuplicity]I usually explain my skills before the match in chat and tell them if I ping then to gather for heals. Then whoever I lane with has to trust me >=][/quote]

[quote=ProAsylum][quote=Mooninites] [quote=ProAsylum] Hey guys, recently I came up to train all champs that I didn't master yet and then after years of playing LoL I finally bought [[Karma]]! I think she's way too underplayed because.. 1. she can go to ANY lane ( top, mid , bot ). 2. she can has a lot of sustain due to [[Heavenly Wave]] AND [[Soul Shield]] 3. she got a lot of damage with a pretty good scaling 4. she got a nice movement buff/debuff using [[Spirit Bond]] 5. because of her passive [[inner Flame]] she doesn't need AP early game and can rush chalice of harmony + getting [[frozen heart]] in mid game. 6. she can bait a lot of enemies with low hp because of her [[inner Flame]] , [[Heavenly Wave]] and [[Soul Shield]] there are just way more PROS than CONS to play [[Karma]]. but she is totally underplayed in my eyes, don't you think so, too? [/quote] you don't understand why she's strong and why she's weak, move along [/quote] huh??[/quote]

[quote=JMastiff]Solo top, double WoTa teams with tough initiator like Singed or Malphite. Pretty much ungankable with good sustain; blue buff hungry (so Chalice if vs ap top) or blue if manaless champ mid. She's underplayed because it's required to build team around her and it's hard since you'd lose a tough champ that would otherwise go top.[/quote]

[quote=ProAsylum][quote=JMastiff] Solo top, double WoTa teams with tough initiator like Singed or Malphite. Pretty much ungankable with good sustain; blue buff hungry (so Chalice if vs ap top) or blue if manaless champ mid. She's underplayed because it's required to build team around her and it's hard since you'd lose a tough champ that would otherwise go top. [/quote] not really losing a tough champ. karma can replace an ad offtank well due to her sustain and damage output. ad dmg can be done by ad carry and ad offtank jungler. i do think that double ap is quite stronk.[/quote]

[quote=JMastiff]She is required to build kinda tanky (FH comes to mind but I guess it's just the desing of the item) cause otherwise she'd die after the initiate burst; not because she wants to peel in deep like Wukong, Shyvana, Singed or GP. That's what I ment btw.[/quote]

[quote=PerpetualDuplicity]FH is a good item on her anyway so it really doesn't matter. Always build her with a FH at least unless I manage RoA in a decent amount of time.[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol][quote=koksei] Karma is kinda meh. I saw some decent ones by you and strawhat but I'd prefer any other mid/top/support over her all day erryday. Sorry bro :D [/quote] aww thx dude <3 she can be quite good mid if you go for the full gp10 build and farm it out when you get 6 items at 37 minutes you will be a beast and able to 1shot carries np! she is viable imo but on the lower part of viable definitely a great soloQ pickup since ppl dont kno how to play vs her greez sam aka strawhatbro[/quote]

[quote=PerpetualDuplicity]Yeah people really have no idea how to play her or play against her and it's cute. Almost as cute as mashing your blue bubble as Sivir when Lux fires her ult at you and watch her rage. Teehee.[/quote]